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November 1st, 2016 18:00

Can we replace stock Dell case fans? XPS 8500

I was looking to improve some circulation in my XPS 8500 by replacing the case fans with the new Corsair magnetic bearing fans.  But I thought I read once you couldnt replace a stock Dell case fan?  Something about the mobo wont detect the sensor on the stock fan and throw no fan detect errors at boot?

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November 1st, 2016 21:00

I replaced the 92mm case fan on my 8700 with a Noctua NF-B9 PWM fan  ( search amazon) and it works fine, moves more air and doesn't cause any errors.

YMMV

On another 8700 system I cut the front of the chassis and added a 120mm fan as an intake using a Y-splitter, also without any complaints from the BIOS. That fan was a cougar CFV12HP

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November 1st, 2016 21:00

Hi,

Dell would not recommend you to replace the fan with a third party fan as you will receive errors on the system which may lead to system performance issues.

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November 2nd, 2016 00:00

Those Corsair ML fans are 120mm/140mm only, so you can use them only in a front intake position.  They also seem to be 4 pin PWM fans.  They can run as 3 pin fans however by just not connecting the additional speed pin.

You can certainly change the rear exhaust 92mm fan in the XPS 8500 with a different model than the ML fans, just make sure it is a 3 pin fan, as that fan header is controlled by voltage.  It may not change the circulation much however as the fan speed won't change much since that is controlled by the fan header.  If you connect a rear fan running at a higher fixed RPM to a 12v molex connector and leave that fan header bare, you will get a error at boot.   The way around that would be to install a intake fan up front and connect that to that 3 pin header. 

It does help airflow to add an intake fan up front like DanH mentioned.   Usually 2-4 degrees drop in CPU temps from what I saw.  You won't have to worry about sensors by just connecting that fan to a 12V molex from the PSU with a  3 pin to 12V molex adapter.   A large, slow moving air flow fan is best running at 1000-1200 rpm, one that can move a lot of air without a lot of noise.  

Doing both would be the best best, a new rear exhaust fan running at a fixed 1100-1200 rpm, and an intake fan up front being controlled by the 3 pin header.

If you are planning on running a GTX 1080 class card on a 4K or 3440 x 1440 display, then things get a little more complicated as the CPU temps will become an issue.

More info here on the fan headers:

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3515/t/19985691

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November 2nd, 2016 08:00

Thanks folks.  I want to install a couple of the new Corsair magnetic levitation (magnetic no bearings) fans.  Even without speed control I think they will push and pull better than stock.  And my video card is getting a bit warm while gaming.

www.corsair.com/.../ml120-pro-120mm-premium-magnetic-levitation-fan

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November 3rd, 2016 21:00

I was looking to improve some circulation in my XPS 8500 by replacing the case fans with the new Corsair magnetic bearing fans.

I bought an XPS 8500 mainboard on eBay and installed it in a Cooler Master N200 chassis. I used a Cooler Master Vortex CPU cooler, fastened with screws. The NT200 has several fan mount points, so you cooling is not an issue.

 Something about the mobo wont detect the sensor on the stock fan and throw no fan detect errors at boot?

Nope, that is not true.

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