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Dell "Dimension E-310" video card upgrade for Games...posiible?
Hello,
Seems I'm back Full-Circle askiing you folks for advice...here is an excerpt of my System info:
Specifications
Dell™ Dimension™ 3100/E310 Service Manual
System Information
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Time of this report: 8/24/2010, 07:01:40
Machine name: DORIANZANE
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100427-1636)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Dell DV051
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A04
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1014MB RAM
Page File: 587MB used, 3377MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
DC power supply: Wattage 230 W
Voltage: 90 to 135 V and 180 to 265 V at 50/60 Hz
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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2582&SUBSYS_01C41028&REV_04
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Dell E176FP
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: ialmrnt5.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4410 (English)
Per the Dell Tech's suggestion (see here attached) wqe purchased this video card from Dell: EVGA GeForce 9400 GT 1 GB DDR2 PCI Graphics Card...We asked Twice to confirm with him that we did NOT require a New Power supply to run this:
| 08/29/2010 02:46:10PM | Agent (E&A_Ernesto): "I recommend rthis GeForce **** GT 1 GB DDR2 PCI Graphics Card at $89.99" |
| 08/29/2010 02:48:35PM | Carlos SAMPER: "I've been getting Soooo many sugestions from diff Forums (I know big mistake..) recommending half a dozen cards....and telling me I have to Upgrade my power supply as well from the 250w this computer has to all the to 450w...am I going to have to do this" |
| 08/29/2010 02:49:24PM | Agent (E&A_Ernesto): "Yes the card that I recommend is for your computer as checked by the model." |
| 08/29/2010 02:50:59PM | Carlos SAMPER: "So NO power supply upgrade correct?....sorry for pressing this point.....also will a Dummy like me be able to install this or should I have a computer tech do this? ...say like at bestbuy's geek squad?" |
| 08/29/2010 02:51:20PM | Agent (E&A_Ernesto): "no upgrade for the power supply." |
| Carlos SAMPER: "Great!!!!"
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So like a dope I go ahead and buy this.......I go to my tech who is doing this Upgrade and he says it DOES require a different Power Supply an Upgrade to 300W and also because the ones he has won't fit inside the computer .. too big..he says Only dell can provide the proprietary correct one.......I'm so confused..... now I'm stuck with this Graphic card a purchase Order they refuse to Cancel.....
How can I go forward with this? Is there a Power supply out there that I can get to fit this Card's needs and with these upgrade the computer? Dell Online Tech Service could not come up with one?
Thank you for any help
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shesagordie
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August 31st, 2010 09:00
Dadu10014
The e310 desktop, does not use a Dell proprietary power supply.
The 3100/e310 PC's have an open back panel, you are use most standard generic stock ATX power supplies, with either a 24-pin or 20+4-pin motherboard main connector, with or without the on/off switch and two SATA power connectors.
The power supplies can be purchased from most local, or online computer stores.
The instructions for replacing the power supply are HERE. <ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed from this post by Dell>
Bev.
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August 31st, 2010 10:00
Dadu10014
Quote:
I got this from our "Best buy" tech thats' why I sent the previous email...guess I need a new tech....what power supply could you reccommend for us to go with the Dell ordered Video card... EVGA GeForce 9400 GT PCIe x16 Graphics Card from EVGA®
First, the Dimension e310/3100 does not support ANY PCIe x16 video cards, the motherboard does not have a PCIe x 16 slot, it only has 1xPCIe x1 slot, and 2xPCI slots, you need a PCI video card.
If you run a search of the forum, you will find that the Dimension e310/3100 does not use a Dell proprietary power supply.
Read the sample post HERE
Best Buy Techies are wrong.
Bev.
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August 31st, 2010 10:00
Shesagordie....yeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....Answers !!!
standard generic stock ATX ?? power supplies
I got this from our "Best buy" tech thats' why I sent the previous email...guess I need a new tech....what power supply could you reccommend for us to go with the Dell ordered Video card... EVGA GeForce 9400 GT PCIe x16 Graphics Card from EVGA®
From: Thornton, David < ADMIN NOTE : Email id removed per privacy policy >
> Subject: RE: Onsite @ Betsbuy PC tech support??
> To: "multimedia" < ADMIN NOTE : Email id removed per privacy policy >
> Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 1:33 PM
> After looking into the specifications
> of your model, we do carry the video card's for your PC -
> However we do not carry a power supply that will work for
> your dell desktop due to dells parts being proprietary (Our
> power supply's will physically not fit in your computer
> case). Dell is the only company that you will be able to
> purchase a power supply from with more wattage to handle a
> new video card.
So how should I proceed with this ? HELP
Thanx for answering all these dumb questions
Dadu10014
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August 31st, 2010 13:00
I guess I was sold the wrong video card by Dell its a PCIe x16 Graphics Card
should've gobe with what you said previously:
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August 31st, 2010 14:00
PCI cards are very outdated. PCI-->AGP-->PCIE v.1-->PCIE v.2. You can see where they are. IT is 15 year old technology. If you require PCI cards, you can look at these, Very overpriced IMHO.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709+600007853&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=48&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=
shesagordie
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August 31st, 2010 14:00
Dadu10014
Yep, I think you were.
You need to contact Dell and RMA the PCIe x16 card and buy a PCI card.
Bev.
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September 1st, 2010 08:00
Sorry...Seems like Only part of my reply went thru…...this Forum edited me...one more time:
I should’ve gone with your previous suggestion:
posted by shesagordie
replied on 08-24-2010 11:11 AM
Dadu153
The Dimension e319/3100 is not a gaming system, it has a 230w power supply and does not have either a PCIe x16, or AGP slot, you would need to install a PCI card that limits your choice of video cards.
The PCI card shown HERE: JATON VIDEO-338PCI-DVI GeForce 6200 256MB 64-bit DDR PCI Low Profile Ready Video Card should work fine with the default 230w power supply and meets your requirements
One of the better PCI video cards is shown HERE: SPARKLE SP95GT1024D2LHP GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card , but to use this card, you would need to upgrade the power supply to a 450w+ unit.
Bev.
So I guess I might as well go for broke and get the “Sparkle PCI card” and the 450w+ power supply…..any suggestions on what power supply to get Brand name Model #? Also will this affect my computer as a “Whole” …..will ALL Other features (ie. email, internet surfing etc) stay the same? I mean can my computer/processor handle this Upgrade…..or will it go up in flames !!!
Thanx for all the advice.
Dadu153
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September 1st, 2010 09:00
You cannot put an X16 Card in an E310 because it does not have an X16 video slot.
Rather than Spend $100 on a good power supply Find a Used Optiplex GX620 Tower
and buy a Radeon 4670 PCIE video card.
a 32 bit 33mhz PCI Geforce 8400 will not perform well.
That would be the only card that would fit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133245
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September 1st, 2010 09:00
This problem is not limited to E310.
The GX520 series is hobbled like the E310 with the PCIE slot removed from the motherboard.
The GX620 Tower Series can use a
VisionTek 900251 Radeon HD4670 1GB PCI
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September 1st, 2010 10:00
Ok I pulled the cover off an E310 in the office.
It DOES have an X1 slot.
That means a
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5071675
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161280
HIS H435F512EP Radeon HD 4350 iFan Video Card
512MB DDR2, PCI Express x1 2.0, DVI, VGA, HDMI
is probably a better choice than 32 bit 33mhz PCI cards are.
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September 1st, 2010 10:00
Dadu10014
Check out the Corsair and Antec power supplies, best to look for a 500w power supply
The 3100/E310 has an open back panel, you can install most standard generic stock ATX power supplies, with either a 24-pin or 20+4-pin motherboard main connector, with or without the on/off switch and two SATA power connectors.
You should be able to buy this from a local computer store.
The instructions for replacing the power supply are here. <ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed from this post by Dell>
Your e310 system and processor should be fine.
Bev.
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September 1st, 2010 12:00
Dadu10014
Yes.
Bev.
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September 1st, 2010 12:00
Thanx...
so any one of these video cards with a replacement "Antec 500w power supply", should allow for this Upgrade on this E-310....correct?
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September 1st, 2010 13:00
Dadu10014
Happy to have helped.
Bev.
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September 1st, 2010 13:00
Thank you ... for ALL the advice..will get on this