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November 3rd, 2012 21:00

EVGA GTX 560 not recognized by XPS 8500, Bios update fix?

I see that the last roll out of the A09 bios for the XPS 8500  there were some fixes for unspecified  graphics cards that weren't recognized at startup. 

I know that this was a problem that carried over from the XPS 8300, where some graphic cards weren't recognized at start up and resulted in a black screen even though the onboard video worked fine.  The lack of the ability to turn off on-board graphics was attributed to be part of the cause, the lack of bios support from Dell and the Nvidia/card makers also mentioned.

It's nice to see that the list grows longer as to what GPU's are supported from the latest W8 XPS 8500 wiki:

GeForce GT 545 | GTX660 | GTX555 | GeForce GTS450 | GeForce GTX 590 | GeForce GTX 460 | GTX680 | GeForce GTX 580 | GeForce GTX 560 Ti | GTX 480 | GTX690 http://downloads-us.dell.com/FOLDER00753042M/3

Geforce GT 620 | Geforce GT640 | nVidia GT640 http://downloads-us.dell.com/FOLDER00736734M/3

AMD HD7570 http://downloads-us.dell.com/FOLDER00746666M/6/

Radeon HD 6990 | Radeon HD7870 | Radeon HD 6950 | Radeon HD 5870 | Radeon HD 6770 | Radeon HD 5970 | Radeon HD7770 | Radeon HD 5770 | Radeon HD 6870 | Radeon HD7950 http://downloads-us.dell.com/FOLDER00749652M/3

Any chance the GTX 560 could be added to the list for a future fix?    The GTX 560ti version is on the current list and was on Chris' list for the XPS 8300 as well.

It isn't recognized at start up and results in a black screen.  PSU and two connectors are fine,card works fine in a different machine (Studio 540 with upgraded PSU).    Onboard video works fine, and AMD 7570 that came with the machine works fine so motherboard isn't an issue.

Thanks in advance!!

Nvidia System Info for the GTX 560

Operating System:    Windows 7 Ultimate, 64-bit
DirectX version:    11.0
GPU processor:        GeForce GTX 560
Driver version:        301.42
DirectX support:    11.1
CUDA Cores:        336
Core clock:        850 MHz
Shader clock:        1701 MHz
Memory clock:        2052 MHz (4104 MHz data rate)
Memory interface:    256-bit
Total available graphics memory:    4094 MB
Dedicated video memory:    1023 MB GDDR5
System video memory:    0 MB
Shared system memory:    3071 MB
Video BIOS version:    70.24.18.00.66
IRQ:            16
Bus:            PCI Express x16 Gen2

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November 8th, 2012 15:00

Thanks Chris for the reply :emotion-1:

Dead end also with EVGA on this issue.  

EVGA does understand it is a motherboard BIOS issue.   Even though they did the v BIOS update on 600 series cards so they would work on the XPS 8300/XPS 8500, they won't be doing the same for any 500 Series cards.  

At the mercy of Dell on this one to update their BIOS.  Not looking good and pretty much stuck in the middle with no options other than to buy a new card.

Brand new i7 machine and am unable to do any gaming  with it at all....not exactly what I expected.

I did start a thread in XPS Club for successful upgrades so as to spare anyone else from running into this problem.

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November 8th, 2012 15:00

HanoverB,

The Bios and driver updates we offer are for the Dell OEM (original equipment manufacturer) video cards. We do not write Bios updates for 3rd party (PNY, MSI, etc.) vendor hardware. Any reference we made was for the Dell GeForce GTX 560 Ti, not a retail video card. I am not saying a future Bios may not fix the issue, but we are not going to write one based on a 3rd party video card.

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November 15th, 2013 01:00

Wow. This is ridiculously poor customer service.  Guess I will go back to building my own pc(s) if this is the level of (or lack of) support Dell provides for their products.

Won't buy another Dell pc that's for sure.

Shame on you Dell

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November 15th, 2013 11:00

When installing an after-market graphics card into a certified Windows 8 PC with UEFI enabled, the system may not boot.

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3156

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November 15th, 2013 12:00

Not all Dell's fault....the EVGA GTX 560 I had was an older non-reference card that was working fine in a Studio 540 but it was one of those situations where this particular card didn't work in the XPS 8500.  Neither Dell or EVGA had the BIOS update to get the card working.  This was a known issue that affected both the XPS 8300 and XPS 8500 where certain cards just didnt work.  There is a good database of working cards on this forum however that should help folks from running into the same problem.  

I bought a GTX 660ti after the GTX 560 didn't work out and have been perfectly happy with the XPS 8500, added a mSATA card and have a very nice machine I use for gaming and home use.    

Just help setup a friend with a new XPS 8700 who upgraded a basic machine with a new power supply, graphics card and SSD using Windows 7 and that machine really is smooth and flies!     He had to choose between building a pc or going the Dell route and he's happy with the way it turned out.

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November 2nd, 2014 13:00

http://dell.to/1wVtwI3

November 3rd, 2014 13:00

Dell is useless. They want your money and won't give you industry standard for your money. I bought a dell xps 8500 in 2012 and now I'm having an issue with the GTX 770 not working. Dell decided it isn't worth their time to provide to their customers a bios that will recognize all cards. I didn't know what I was getting into back then but now I help people with computers on a regular basis. They all know not to shop with dell. The only reason dell is working on the latest GTX 980 cards and their bios is because they can't get away with people anymore.

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November 4th, 2014 12:00

Please see my preceding post that gives the link to my solution. It should be applicable to most graphic adapters in addition to NVIDIA. The fact that I had to piece together the procedure to installing an NVIDIA graphics card on my Dell instead of receiving the answer from Dell was incredibly frustrating. The PCI-X configuration is an industry standard. The PCI slots on motherboard should accept any card designed to that standard.

In a post earlier in this thread, a Dell employee states that Dell really doesn't care about supporting 3rd party hardware. That employee should pop the case on their Dell and take a tour of the non-Dell hardware that is installed. This was the most accurate statement of Dell's policy towards its customers. Dell at one time was responsive and provided useful solutions to technical problems. Their primary focus now is the commercial market with almost total neglect of the customer base with which  Michael Dell started his company.

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