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GX 260 Motherboard Serial nos 69861-329-07C7; 69861-35A-2477: does anyone know which 845 chipset these are?
GX 260 Motherboard Serial nos 69861-329-07C7; 69861-35A-2477:
I have been quoted these serial numbers for a couple of mobos which are said to be possibly Intel 845GV chipset boards.
Can anyone guide me through the Dell system to check which chipset these mobos are and confirm that they support Hyperthreaded P4 3.06GHz (or higher?) CPUs. Alternatively, can I find this info on the Intel site?
Any links/comments much appreciated.
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December 18th, 2015 04:00
There are absolutely 845GL versions of the board. And the part number is not the determining factor. Intel ® 845GE/845PE Chipset was 2002 and the HT issues were not ironed out until 2003.
Intel ® 845G/845GL/845GV Chipset revised OCT 2003.
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/specupdt/29865707.pdf
The REVISION and Date of manufacture is. The good news is that if you install BIOS A09 and put a 3.06 Ghz HT cpu in it will WORK but HT will remain Disabled. 2003 versions of the board and Reworked earlier versions of the board have the HT ability. It will show up in bios with A09. Don't try using newer cpu BEFORE installing A09 bios.
Use XP or DOS to do the update. There were defective 845 chipsets as well hence the rev B stepping version of the chipset was released by INTEL. When boards went back for badcaps they were reworked with the newer chipset. Thats why the revisions are paper stickers.
No Idea what the markings are for the chipset. You would have to research this over at the intel site.
Intel ® 845G/845GL/845GV Chipset Specification Update
Intel ® 82845G/82845GL/82845GV Graphics and Memory Controller Hub (GMCH)
Notice: The Intel ® 82845G/82845GL/82845GV GMCH
may contain design defects or errors known as errata which may cause the product to deviate from published specifications. Current characterized errata are documented in this Specification Update.
Translation there are bugs we are not fixing and if your HT No werkie Tough cookies.
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December 15th, 2015 10:00
Hyperthreading is in the CPU AND chipset AND Bios Revision.
0T606, 2X378, 62YVH, 2R433, 4T274
There is very little use or improvement to netburst with hyperthreading.
So some of the boards support it and some do not. 15 year old WIN98SE machines are not worth "upgrading"
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December 15th, 2015 15:00
Thanks for your comment.
10 year old XP Pro-SP3 machines still do a fine job for word processing, spreadsheets, research and a little gentle surfing!
P4 3.06GHz CPU hyperthreading: Check
BIOS Rev A08 hyperthreading: Check
Missing link: Which 845 chipset is the mobo? (ie: are the 2 serial numbers good for 845GV, or if not which one?)
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December 15th, 2015 18:00
Serial numbers not equal to features or Identifying Chipset.
0T606, 2X378, 62YVH, 2R433, 4T274
There are More than 5 revisions of the motherboard. XP SP3 is not making 2000 systems Younger. These systems came with WIN98 and WIN2000.
The information you are asking for is NOT forthcoming and never will be.
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor supporting HT Technology 3.06 GHz, 512K Cache, 533 MHz FSB
SL6JJ, SL6K7, SL6S5, SL6SM, SL6PG, SL6QC works on SOME revisions but not ALL GX260. My foggy memory says FEB 2003 versions of the GX260 which were BIOS A09 and the last to ever be released support hyperthread. CHRIS M may be able to verifiy this.
WIN98SE 1999 GX260
WIN2000 2000 GX260
WIN XP 2001 GX260
VISTA 2006 GX620 These are the oldest ones I consider.
WIN7 2009 GX780
WIN8 2012
WIN8.1 2013
WIN 10 2015
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December 16th, 2015 15:00
Thanks v.much for your further info. I respect your opinion re GX260, even if I must beg leave to differ!
There are a number of suitable CPUs on eBay, eg: "Working Intel Pentium 4 3.06 GHz 512 533 socket 478 HT CPU Processor SL6PG", which are not expensive.
There are a number of boards offered on eBay, but ideally to avoid a gamble I need to know the chipset. From the photos on the most promising listing there are 2 mobos which have AGP 4x Slots, which appears to eliminate the 845GL and 845GV variants, so if the serial numbers 69861-329-07C7 and 69861-35A-2477 don't lead to the chipset identification then I guess that the gamble would be that they are not 845/845D, since I believe that the 845E, 845PE, 845G, and 845GE are all HT capable if running XP with the ACPI dual core driver installed and HT enabled in the Rev A08 or A09 BIOS.
Any further thoughts would be gratefully received.
Thanks again for your support.
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December 17th, 2015 12:00
Since the parts guide lists all of these 845G I would have to disagree than 845G does HT.
There must be some kind of Revision in the Stepping of the Chipset that works or not when you update to BIOS A09. Thats too far into the weeds for me to know for sure as I am NOT Dell or Dell engineering.
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December 17th, 2015 15:00
Once again v.many thanks for your valued comments.
In my researches elsewhere I have come across the following informIT comparison chart:
Feature
845
845E
845PE
845GL
845GV
845G
845GE
533MHz FSB
No
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
HT Technology
No
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Integrated video
No
No
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
266MHz integrated video
No
No
No
No
No
No
Yes
AGP 4x Slot
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
No
Yes
Yes
PC-133 memory
Yes
No
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
PC2100 DDR memory
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
PC-2700 DDR memory
No
No
Yes
No
No
No
Yes
ECC memory
Yes
Yes
No
No
No
No
No
USB 2.0
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Enhanced on-board audio
No
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Do you think it is reliable?
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December 18th, 2015 09:00
Many thanks for the further info and thanks again for your patience.