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December 18th, 2014 16:00

XPS 8700 nVidia GTX video card upgrades,

Now that the XPS A10 8700 BIOS update is out, Chris-M would like to close the long Black screen of death thread.

Let's use this to post successes and links out to other forums with tips, tricks and how-to-resolve issues with high-end nVidia GTX cards. 

This will help others choose wisely or perhaps find a solution to an already solved problem.

In the body of your post, if you have upgraded to a high-end nVidia GTX graphics card, please list the following.

* specific video card
* exact driver version
* Brand monitor and resolution and cable type: HDMI, DVI, Display Port or (yikes) VGA
* specific power supply you are using if you upgraded or indicate Stock Dell 460W.

Ask questions, link to benchmarks, describe what has gone well and reflect on what you might have done differently.

I encourage AMD owners to start a similar discussion, but let us keep this thread to high end nVidia GTX cards only. 

High end should imply above and beyond what Dell has shipped, or more than a GTX 660 or GTX 750ti.

GTX 760, 770, 780, 780ti, 970 and 980 graphics cards are what I would consider high-end.

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November 6th, 2015 09:00

i chose no better than 960 because i don't play many games.

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November 6th, 2015 13:00

planning on getting a 960 GTX asus strix soon 

this is the card in question: https://www.asus.com/au/Graphics-Cards/STRIXGTX960DC2OC2GD5/specifications/ 

The factor PSU for xps 8700 is 460W, and has two six pin PCI connectors.

Looks like that card only uses a single six pin connector so it should drop in without issues.

Before installing the card, update BIOS to A10

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November 6th, 2015 17:00

ok thank you for the reply, gave me a peace of mind bfr buying :)

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December 19th, 2015 20:00

I have a dell 8700 SE... I bought a EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GS 80 Plus gold and gtx 970

I think I will physically be able to install eveything(I haven't done a pc modification in years though)

I updated to a10.  After I install the power supply and card... What do I do about the drivers?  How do I update them?

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December 20th, 2015 11:00

You just download the drivers from Nvidia and install them.

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December 20th, 2015 13:00

Someone mentioned there was a program that auto detects the correct driver...? Any idea if that would work to?  I appreciate your help

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December 20th, 2015 14:00

http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience

bloatware as far as I'm concerned but...

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December 20th, 2015 15:00

I would install the PSU first with no other changes, or in other words install the PSU before installing the graphics card and make sure it works. Change one thing at a time.

The CPU power may be the most confusing, especially if the PSU has an 8 pin connector. read the docs to get the right 4 pins, and then zip tie the other connector back to the cable so it doesn't flap around.

Make sure the 24 pin cable seats completely.

I would use two SATA power cables, one for the optical, and one to the HDD/SDD area.

Take digital pics before, and after. The before just in case you can't remember where everything went.

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December 20th, 2015 15:00

Ok ... I took the old card out and uninstalled those old drivers.

So ... I hope I'm not missing something... Just upgrade the psu, then insert new card, boot computer, install drivers?  Anything else I should know.  To be honest I'm worried about doing the psu myself because the one in the dell is non modular, and the one I bought is modular... Any tips for this?

Thanks again and sorry to be a bother

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December 20th, 2015 18:00

I'm starting to think I'm in over my head with installing the psu

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December 20th, 2015 21:00

It's not hard at all dude. on the psu are 2 cords that are permanently attached. the 24 pin and the 8. just pull the 8 apart and plug it into the 4 pin next to the cpu and the 24 pin where it goes.

heres a post i did a while ago on my dell vostro 470.

1. Update the dell bios to A10 or A12 on the vostro 470/ xps 8500. (THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT OR YOU WILL GET A BLANK BLACK SCREEN ON BOOTING UP. ) it is very easy to do. just go to the dell website and download the bios exe. double click. install it. restart the computer when prompted. 

2. Updated geforce drivers to prepare for the new 970.

3. i swapped the dell psu with a corsair 750m. it fit nicely in the Vostro 470. it's a little longer than the stock psu by half an inch but the height and width are dead on. the vostro does not have any interference on the top like the xps does. (xps has a headphone jack in the middle of the top case) i choose the 750 watts because next year i plan to build a pc of my own and i will swap the 750m out. plus, plenty of power for the card aint a bad thing. also, the cable management with a modular is better and i like the cables it came with. now the 2 cables that are permanently attached to the psu is the 24 pin and the 8 pin that goes into the motherboard. on the dell motherboard near the cpu there is a 4 pin socket. the 8 pin that's permanently attached on the PSU splits into (2) 4 pin sockets down the middle. you just pull them apart. 

4. I bought this evga 970 sc blower style model. I choose this version because the dell case is kind of small and i dont want to recirculate the hot air inside with the 2 fan acx 2.0 cooling models. the blower style gpu blows the hot air it creates out the back of the pc preventing it from overheating and shutting down. it took a little twisting and turning but it fits nice. a good half inch of space between the gpu and hdd brackets. the pci-e cable that came with the corsair is what i used for its (2) 6 pin power. it's a cable that has one end with an 8 pin socket and the other end has (2) 6 pins. very simple. just plug the 8 pin side into the psu under the pci-e socket label and plug both 6 pins in the gpu.

5. i turned my pc on and at this time the computer icons were large all over the screen but fret not, it was my system doing the its "new device detected" thing. i just left it alone for 1-2 minutes and it asked me to reboot. click yes. the system will reboot and i had my pc back to the way it was and i was ready to game!!

6. first game i choose to play. FAR CRY 4. plays amazing!!!!

 

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December 20th, 2015 21:00

3) I'm sorry to triple post... So I know the motherboard needs a 24 pin connection (from one of the MB slots at the back) and it also needs a 12v 4 pin connection... Does that connect to the back slot labeled CPU, or the other MB slot?  I can't tell since the manual is different than what is actually says.

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December 20th, 2015 21:00

So after watching a few videos I feel more confident.  One issue I have though.  The manual says the connections on the back say one thing, while pictures say otherwise.  In the YouTube videos, and in the manual, it says the connections on the back of the power supply are as follows: MB, CPU1, CPU2, VGA1, VGA2, SATA/PERIF, FDD.  From the manual....

Cables.                Modular Connector

MB ----------------- 1x ATX 20+4 pin

CPU 1 -------------1x EPS12V 4+4 pin

CPU 2 -------------1x 2 EPS12V (8 pin & 4+4 pin)

VGA ----------------2x PCI-E 6+2 pin + 6+2 pin

SATA/PERIF -------1x 4 SATA 5 pin

                            2x 2 SATA 5 pin

FDD ---------------- 1x 4 Molex 4 pin

But in the pictures I have seen of the power supply... It's labeled like this on the back: MB, MB, CPU, vGA1, VGA2, SAta/PERIF, FDD.

1) So there is an extra MB spot and one less CPU spot.  What did MB replace... CPU1?  I'm guessing the 12v 4 pin that goes to the motherboard is the wire in question here.  

2) SAta is for optical drive and hdd?  Both vga ports will be used for the 970 (when I install in the future)?

I appreciate any help - I haven't switched a power supply before.  Seems doable though.

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December 20th, 2015 21:00

I'm starting to think I'm in over my head with installing the psu

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate, Hate leads to suffering. ( ok, I'm a star wars nerd)

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December 20th, 2015 21:00

The motherboard needs two connectors.

1) the 24 pin (20+4) to the main motherboard connector
2) 4 pin CPU power.

That PSU likely has an EPS style CPU connector which is a split 4 + 4 power connector.

Look very closely at the pins and you will see some are square and some are "D" shaped. Read the manual and you'll see which 1/2 of the connector to use and which 1/2 to not use.

If you are not sure, take a pic and post it. The (force) I mean the forum can guide you. 

May the force be with you.

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ps: the family went to star wars 7 and we are being nerds re-watching all the old movies.

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