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Dell Insprion 620/Vostro 260 NO Bios Setting for AHCI
Dell Insprion 620/Vostro 260 NO Bios Setting for AHCI
Interestingly I could not even update the bios without the INTEL Management Drivers.
Checking in the Device manager the machine is using the ATA drivers not the AHCI drivers
AND the INTEL RST drivers will not install.
Why is that?
[:'(]
I did try updating to Bios version A04 but this made no difference.
RyanMM
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June 18th, 2012 16:00
I did some research and found out that the chipset in this system, the H61, simply doesn't support AHCI or RAID. There's no way to enable either for a reason. :(
Wish I had known this. The value of this system just really went down the tube if you intend to throw an SSD in there.
speedstep
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June 19th, 2012 08:00
Doh!
Never even thought of that.
Dell Inspiron 620
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Dell Inspiron 620s
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However
System Setup
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is wrong because it says:
System Configuration
Intel(R) H61 Express Chipset Family LPC Interface Controller - 1C5C
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C5C&SUBSYS_04ED1028&REV_05
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C5C&SUBSYS_04ED1028
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C5C&CC_060100
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C5C&CC_0601
Slikkster
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February 14th, 2013 19:00
OK, I accomplished what I needed to do. Here's what I did, and what I've found:
I managed to downgrade my bios version to MS-A04 while patching it at the same time for AHCI. I also found that this did NOT cure my flaky boot issues. Upon further investigation, I found that any of my USB devices that were “storage-capable” (Zune-HD, USB external WD drive) were causing the pc to stall at boot-up, even though USB devices were listed far down the boot order. I ended up disabling any/all USB boot devices in the bios boot order since I’m not booting from USB and can easily toggle it on in the bios if I actually needed to. I did NOT disable “Legacy USB”. That would have been disastrous. Ok, maybe not disastrous, but since there’s no PS/2 ports on this computer, I wouldn’t have any keyboard available during bootup. I would have had to clear the CMOS just to get into the bios! Anyway, that issue’s solved. With no USB devices in the boot order, the pc boots fine to Windows from a cold start.
Now, as for the flashing process, here's what I did:
1. Got a copy of AMIBCP from this link via bios-mods.com: http://www.sendspace.com/file/owfsdf (it's an .rar compressed file, so get a copy of 7-Zip or something similiar to uncompress it. What I did was uncompress the RAR and then the enclosed secondary ZIP file contained therein, and saved the extracted AMIBCP files to a folder. I then made a desktop shortcut to AMIBCP.exe. More on that later.
2. You’re going to need to FIRST change a Windows registry setting to enable AHCI, or else you could end up with an “Inaccessible Boot Device” error if you try to boot with AHCI enabled in the BIOS.
3. Downloaded the MS-A04 bios for the Inspiron 620. Since this was a lower version than the MS-A08 I already had installed, I had to use a special file "switch" to get it to run. If I were to just click on the MS-A04.exe file by itself, I would have gotten an error message that the bios version was the same or lower than my current version, and hence, it wouldn't run. So, the "fix" is to click Start/Run in Windows, clear the Run box if necessary of any text that's already there, and then drag the file MS-04.exe (or whatever previous version you need to run) into the Run window. Position your cursor at the end of the MS-A04.exe file name with your mouse, add a space with the keyboard, and then type in (without the quotes) "/forceit”. So, the file name in the Run box should say something like:
C:\Users\username\folder\MS-A04.exe /forceit
Of course, "username" and "folder" are whatever your name and folder path are. I'm assuming C: as your Windows drive.
Click OK. The bios update screen will pop up waiting for you to commit to updating it. Don't click the "Update" option at this point. Just leave it sitting on-screen, as this is the time you'll be patching your bios for AHCI. To do that, go back to the Run folder, clear the box of the MS-A04.exe text if it’s there, and just type in (without quotes) "&TEMP&" and click OK. Your Temp folder will open. Scroll down the folder list until you see the MS-A04 folder. Double-click on that folder to open it up. What I did was drag the .bin file (MS-A04.bin) -- and dropped it on top of my AMIBCP.EXE shortcut on my desktop. This opens the bios editor. You can, of course, use the File/Open option on the AMIBCP.exe program, but it will take you an extra step, since .bin files are not looked for by default. You’d have to select “All Files” from the File/Open box to then “see” your MS-A04.bin file as an option to open. So, why not just drag the file onto the shortcut? No muss, no fuss.
Now, I just looked for the settings that user Litwell so kindly took screenshots of on page 2 of this thread. You'll be making 5 changes he's highlighted in yellow. Save the file back to the MS-A04 folder. Now, all the while the actual bios flash window is still on-screen waiting for you to commit to flash it. Now, click the “Update” button, and it will flash your patched bios.
4. Of course, a reboot is needed after flashing, and that’s the time you’ll want to go into the PC's bios/setup and set your drives for AHCI vs. IDE, now that you have that option. You’ll see you have a SATA options menu item. Save your changes in the bios. Boot into Windows. Shortly after booting, you’ll be prompted to reboot for changes to take effect. I actually took an extra step and found Intel’s AHCI Controller, since this is an Intel chipset on the Dell Inspiron 620. I got that here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20110&keyword=%22AHCI+SATA+Driver%22&lang=eng I installed it, and rebooted. My device manager now shows my drives as SCSI drives – which they essentially are with AHCI. These drivers come with an “Intel Rapid Storage Technology” Control Panel applet, which tells you the status of the drives, speeds, etc. Mine is reporting 3 gigs/sec transfer rate, write caching enabled, etc. There’s also an option to toggle on an LED light for the port to show you which one the drive is connected to. I haven’t done anything with that.
Bottom line: Since my boot problems were not the result of the MS-A08 bios update, I can always patch that and reflash to that one. I read the changes for that update, though, and it says this: “Fix system will have some fan noise with some particular situations.”. Well, this is about the quietest pc I’ve ever had, so unless this is referring to the DVD drive spin up noise, I’ll pass for now.
Here's what my Device Manager looks like after:
stb2
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January 1st, 2015 12:00
Great Thanxs for all of you!
Especially for ErwanLeBihan, PippoX0 and Slikkster!!!
I got AHCI running on a "Inspiron 620 (Mid 2011)" and Win7 64Bit, and it works perfect up to now!
I’m patched myself the latest original Dell Bios, which comes as a download named "MS-A10.exe"
I want to give a short wrap up of this huge thread, with the information which was useful for me and took me a while to get it. Also the verification for Bios version A10. All information is already spreaded in this thread. So if you don’t understand any step, you have to read the whole thread.
The patch is no real functional change. It just makes "hidden menus" accessible in the standard bios menu of your PC. The menu is obviously deactivated by Dell, because they presumably do not want to guarantee that it works a 100%. It was probably not tested when they put this PC model on the market in 2011.
To compare your changes you can download my patched Bios:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/v85r7docamfx3c9/MS-A10_AHCI.BIN
If you use this file the risk is up to you!!!
By, and another Thanks to the guys who figured out this!
Stefan
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March 17th, 2012 05:00
The manual shows AHCI enabled by default. "SATA Mode — AHCI; RAID (AHCI by default)"
speedstep
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March 17th, 2012 08:00
Ok I found it listed Under system configuration in the manual. This option DOES NOT EXIST in an actual Inspiron 620 F2 CMOS MENU.
WHY? [:'(]
The bios is FORCED TO ATAPI By Default AND Has no RAID OR AHCI modes under ADVANCED, SYSTEM CONFIGURATION.
System Configuration
The Drivers in device manager are the ATAPI aka non AHCI drivers.
My SSD Firmware LIVE Linux Update CD also says the drives are in ATA not AHCI mode. (This means its BIOS not Registry or Driver)
Microsoft AHCI.SYS is not loading or installing nor is the INTEL RST driver.
Intel® Rapid Storage Technology supports the following Intel® chipsets. But Refuses to Auto or Manual Install on a 620.
Desktop chipsets:
insp620620s
Manuals
Dell™ Inspiron™ 620 Service Manual
Technical Overview
Before You Begin
Computer Cover
Memory Module(s)
Front Bezel
Card Retention Bracket
PCI Express Cards <ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed from this post by Dell>
Drives
Front I/O Panel
Fans
Processor
Coin-Cell Battery
Power Supply
System Board
System Setup
Flashing the BIOS <ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed from this post by Dell>
System Setup Options
Main
System Information
Displays the system name
BIOS Version
Displays the BIOS version number
Build Date
Displays the build date in mm/dd/yyyy format
System Date
Displays the current date in mm/dd/yyyy format
System Time
Displays the current time in hh:mm:ss format
Service Tag
Displays the service tag of the computer when the service tag is present
Displays a field to input the service tag manually when the service tag is absent
Asset Tag
Displays the asset tag of the computer when the asset tag is present
Processor Information
Processor Type
Displays the processor type
L2 Cache
Displays the L2 cache size
L3 Cache
Displays the L3 cache size
Memory Information
Memory Installed
Indicates the amount of memory installed in MB
Memory Speed
Indicates the memory speed in MHz
Memory Technology
Indicates the type of installed memory
Memory Channel
Indicates single channel or dual channel mode
Device Information
SATA 0
Displays the SATA drive connected to the SATA 0 connector
SATA 1
Displays the SATA drive connected to the SATA 1 connector
SATA 2
Displays the SATA drive connected to the SATA 2 connector
SATA 3
Displays the SATA drive connected to the SATA 3 connector
Advanced
CPU Configuration
Graphics Configuration
System Configuration
Power Management
Post Behavior
Security
Unlock Setup Status
Displays the setup status
Admin Password Status
Displays the admin password status
System Password Status
Displays the system password status
Admin Password
Allows to set, change, or delete the administrator password
NOTE: Deleting the administrator password will delete the system password. Hence, the administrator password must be set before setting the system password.
System Password
Allows to set, change, or delete the system password
Boot Menu Security
Enabled or Disabled
User must enter Admin Password to access the F12 Boot Menu when this setting is enabled (Disabled by default)
HDD Protection Feature
Enabled or Disabled (Disabled by default)
Boot
1st Boot Priority
Specifies the boot sequence from the available devices
Hard Disk; CD/DVD; Network; USB Floppy; USB Hard Disk; USB CD/DVD; Disabled (Hard Disk by default)
2nd Boot Priority
Specifies the boot sequence from the available devices
Hard Disk; CD/DVD; Network; USB Floppy; USB Hard Disk; USB CD/DVD; Disabled (CD/DVD Drive by default)
3rd Boot Priority
Specifies the boot sequence from the available devices
Hard Disk; CD/DVD; Network; USB Floppy; USB Hard Disk; USB CD/DVD; Disabled (USB Floppy by default)
4th Boot Priority
Specifies the boot sequence from the available devices
Hard Disk; CD/DVD; Network; USB Floppy; USB Hard Disk; USB CD/DVD; Disabled (Network by default)
5th Boot Priority
Specifies the boot sequence from the available devices
Hard Disk; CD/DVD; Network; USB Floppy; USB Hard Disk; USB CD/DVD; Disabled (USB Hard Disk by default)
6th Boot Priority
Specifies the boot sequence from the available devices
Hard Disk; CD/DVD; Network; USB Floppy; USB Hard Disk; USB CD/DVD; Disabled (USB CD/DVD by default)
Exit
Exit options
Provides options to Save Changes and Reset, Discard Changes and Reset, and Load Defaults
osprey4
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March 17th, 2012 10:00
I'm kind of not surprised. Yet another reason to avoid the Inspiron desktop models.
McChen
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April 11th, 2012 10:00
I also ran into this issue. Dell please fix this in the BIOS! One, the documentation says the default is AHCI, but in reality the default is ATA. Second, this setting is not configurable by the user. C'mon this is basic stuff here....
PippoX0
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May 2nd, 2012 08:00
I also ran into this issue. Dell please fix this in the BIOS! Bios Upgrade is needed ! AHCI is very important for Windows7 OS . Speed improvement on HDD when SATA AHCI is enabled !!!
Stuart_Gsy
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May 5th, 2012 05:00
Hi All.
I recently purchased a 620MT and having the same problem - not able to turn AHCI on and not getting the performance expected. I have an SSD I want to use but don't get anywhere near the performance AHCI would give. - I have tried it.
Has anyone got a workaround for this? Is there a better motherboard that would fit straight in, or would I be able to add a PCI-E card, attach the SSD to that card and boot from there? I'd even be happy to buy a decent motherboard if it'll fit in the case.
Dell need to address this for us, using a motherboard without AHCI these days is crazy. I wouldn't have bought the machine if I knew about this issue.
Very dissapointed in DELL.
lcon921
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May 14th, 2012 20:00
Yes, Dell, please fix this problem!!
speedstep
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May 16th, 2012 06:00
There is a PCI-E card that you can boot from. Apricorn Velocity Solo Storage controller.
Microcenter
SKU 587550
Mfr Part #:VEL-SOLO
UPC: 708326913027
The Velocity Solo is an industry standard PCIe 2.0 card designed to add a 2.5" Solid State Drive (SSD) via a SATA III connection.
NOTE: Solid State Drive sold separately.
Apricorn Velocity Solo Solid State Drive (SSD) Upgrade Kit for Desktop Computers
ErwanLeBihan
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August 24th, 2012 05:00
Hi.
In fact, the H61 chipset is perfectly capable of doing AHCI. It's a Dell Decision to put the H61 chipset in IDE Compatible Mode.
Here's how you can enable it:
- grab the latest bios. (.exe) from dell support.
- launch the .exe and do not close the flash windows app. Grab all the file from the %TEMP%\randomname subfolder
- Get AmiBcp tool.
- Load MS-Axx.bin from within AmiBCP. Modify the entry to make the SATA menu available (change from default to USER)
- Flash.
- Enjoy.
You can grab the result for free here:
http://dl.free.fr/hDH53VRby
Regards
PippoX0
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August 27th, 2012 03:00
Hi ErwanLeBihan,
Can you post some pics to prove new function of unlocked AHCI .... ?
I downloaded A04 Bios for Inspiron 620S and i patched it,as you have suggested, but i want to be sure that it doesn't brick my pc, before to flash it
Thanx
PippoX0
ErwanLeBihan
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August 27th, 2012 05:00
In fact, All I can say is that the version i've uploaded at dl.free.fr is working on the Vostro 260.
I think it's the same mainboard as the inspiron620, as the inspiron 620 string is also in the bios file.
You get AHCI for sure: Windows Detects the SATA controler as an Intel ICH SATA AHCI controler.
MSAHCI service is enabled during setup.
(BTW, if you make this mod on an existing windows install, don't forget to enable MSAHCI service (Start 3=>0) before as it will be needed by Windows to boot, or you will get a usual BSOD (unmountable boot volume).