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July 10th, 2009 05:00

Dimension 1100 CPU Upgrade

Hi guys,

 

First post as I have recently bought a 2nd hand Dimension 1100 and am considering upgrading the processor. 

 

The best I can tell it has a an Intel 865GV chipset based motherboard, according to intel's website (http://compare.intel.com/PCC/showchart.aspx?mmID=135,138&familyID=10&culture=en-US) I can install a Pentium D (dual core :) ) processor.

 

Has anyone got any experince of upgrading the processor on this type of motherboard (e210882), will it take a socket 775 or will I have to go for a socket 478 based solution.

 

Currently installed is a socket 478 celeron D 2.80 GHz installed.

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July 10th, 2009 10:00

iainbinnie

The Dimension 1100, does not support any Dual core processors, only Socket 478 Single core.

Any Socket 478 Northwood or Prescott P-4 processor, should work in the B110/1100, with an FSB specification up to 800 MHz.

The maximum is a 3.06GHz.

The B110/1100 also, supports Hyper-Threading technology, P-4 processors.

The maximum Socket 478 Celeron-D supported is the 3.2 GHz.

 Note: Upgrade the BIOS to the latest version A01 prior to installing processor.     

Bev.

 

 

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July 11th, 2009 21:00

Cheers Bev,

 

I've chosen a 3.0E Pentium 4 to suit (http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL7PM) upgrading from a Celeron D 2.8GHz (http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL8HM).

 

What are your thoughts on the current setup's ability to hadle the increased thermal out put of the P4, up 89W from 73W of the Celeron.

 

Any idea of the specs of the 110/1100's current heatsink?

 

The current setup has the fan placed on the case at teh back of the machine and is ducted over the heatsink rather than being placed directly on the heatsink.

 

Thanks in advance.

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July 12th, 2009 11:00

iainbinnie

The processor should be fine.

There are no specifications for the heatsink available.

It is a Dell proprietary passive heatsink, as is the motherboard retention bracket and case cooling fan.

The B110/1100 Service Manual is HERE

Bev.

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March 11th, 2010 14:00

Hi Iain,

I know its been a few months but just wondering if you can confirm if the CPU upgrade went OK. I'm just in the same situation now myself and found this thread.

Any hints/tips for what should be done prior to upgrade ?

Thanks,

G.

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March 12th, 2010 15:00

Hey mate,

 

went well, heatsink was up to the task. I ended upgrading the ram, CPU and graphics card. The graphics was the biggest challenge, finding a decent card that could operate on that motherboard wasnt easy. Only other tip is to watch a video on youtube on how to apply thermal paste to the cpu, you will need to do that when you install the new CPU (and take the old paste off the heatsink when you remove iit)

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June 12th, 2010 20:00

Followup:  The BIOS actually says that the processor will run at reduced speed.  And it does.  :-)

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June 12th, 2010 20:00

"Any Socket 478 Northwood or Prescott P-4 processor, should work in the B110/1100, with an FSB specification up to 800 MHz.

The maximum is a 3.6GHz."

 

I disagree.  I put an SL7B8 (3.2 GHz Prescott P4 at 800) into a Dimension 1100 and at bootup, the BIOS says "This processor is not supported by this motherboard" or something like that, and it runs at 199.5 x 14, or 2793 MHz according to CPUID.  (I know that 199.5 is close to 200 which is the "same" as the 800 FSB.)  But the multiplier should be 16, not 14.

I can't find any real specs on what the 1100 will support.  The motherboard model is 0WF887.  There is only one BIOS for this computer, A01, according to Dell's driver download site.  

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June 13th, 2010 10:00

Hello, I too am having a similar problem with my Dell Demension 1100 system. I recently upgraded from the factory Intel Celeron CPU to a Pentium 4 3.20GHz 478 socket CPU. When I startup my system I receive the following error: Alert! the processor is not supported on this system and will run at a reduced speed. Hit F1 to continue, Hit F2 for setup utility.

 

If I hit F1, my system starts up as nothing is wrong. Its faster than the original processor but when I check my computer properties (via start menu) It says I have Pentium 4 HT CPU 3.20GHz 2.79GHz. The actual processor specification is Pentium 4 HT 3.20GHz 800MHz 1MB Socket 478 CPU. According to the factory Manual, found here

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 it says that I can run a 3.20GHz pentium 4 HT 800MHz FSB processor. I am not sure if my P4 HT CPU is a FSB CPU, how can I tell the difference? If it is FSB, then how can I get my machine to utilize the full potential of the processor and not reduce speed?? Thanks

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September 30th, 2010 22:00

The 1100 uses a near-standard micro-ATX mainboard like the 3000, with the non-standard part being the front audio socket. (Some Soundblaster cards support it.) Since third-party suppliers like Precision-PC have mapped the pin assignments, it's possible for a DIY-er to replace the socket with a standard one from the likes of FrontX.

 

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October 3rd, 2010 15:00

Same exact problem guys.  Very disappointing to see that the 3.2 GHz 1M 800 Prescott I just bought will only run reduced at 2.79 GHz.  What the heck is going on here and why is this happening?  According to SpeedStep's listwe can only go up to 3.06 GHz 533 MHz and 512 KB?  Is that right?  And if it is then why on the B110/1100 Technical Specifications 

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page does it say we can use a Pentium 4 800MHz FSB processor with HT?

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