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April 15th, 2011 18:00

Dimension 8400 broken power switch

Is this an accessable fix?  Is it possible to purchase a new power switch?  If not, any work around?

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April 15th, 2011 19:00

astrohoof

 The Dell p/n Y1224 - Control Panel, with power button, for Dell 8400 Computers, can be purchased from HERE

The power switch and circuit board is one unit. Dell has not published a guide to remove the front bezel of the Dimension 8400, you can use this GUIDE,

<ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed / replaced from this post by Dell>

it's for an Optiplex GX50 Small Mini Tower, the procedures are the same.

 A hint: The Dimension 8400 also, has a Hex headed screw on inside right side of front bezel/panel, just below the front USB ports, holding the front panel to the metal chassis, this MUST be removed and is not mentioned in the guide.

Bev.

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April 16th, 2011 00:00

Bev:  Wow, What marvelous help!  I've already ordered the control panel via your provided link!

I also really appreciate the pointers on getting the front bezel off!  You are a life saver.

Thanks a bunch,

Dennis

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April 16th, 2011 09:00

Dennis

Happy to have helped.

Bev.

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May 15th, 2012 01:00

I've a dead power switch on my Dimension 8400 too...

Do you happen to know the pin-out configuration of the front panel connector?

Such that I might be able to power up the Dimension by shorting the power switch pins?

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May 15th, 2012 07:00

The front panel is not Pins.  The power button goes to a 16 pin ribbon cable to a U1456 Board

 There is a 20 pin ribbon connector that goes to a front panel board W3300.

Pinouts are not available not posted for any dell.

Helps to know What Model Case.   The Dells have a Naming Convention.  Most 8400 used the Skydive Tower Chassis.

Dimension 8400 Front I/O USB Audio Panel Board M5989

Dell M5989 Dimension 8400 Front USB Audio I/O Panel

Dell Optiplex GX280 Sm MiniTower Front I/O Control Panel, Dell W3300

Dell Optiplex GX280 Sm MiniTower Front I/O Control Panel, Dell W3300

Dell™ OptiPlex™ GX280 Systems User's Guide

1

U1456 cable connector

4

securing screw

2

front-audio cable connector

5

chassis-intrusion switch cable connector

3

Motherboard cable connector

6

internal speaker cable connector

The Power Button U1456 is on another board that goes to the Control panel which then goes via ribbon cable to
the motherboard. 
Dell OptiPlex GX280 LED Power Control Board w/ Cable, Dell U1456

 

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May 15th, 2012 08:00

Sorry, I meant the pin configuration for the ribbon connector on the motherboard. My simplistic plan was to just remove the ribbon to expose the pins and then short the power pins with a screwdriver to boot up the dimension... :) Thereafter, go into the bios and configure it such that it will power on when electricity is restored. Not sure if this is a futile idea?

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May 15th, 2012 09:00

Thanks, realised that that was the case...

But I guess it is still possible that someone here might have mapped out the pin configuration on their own accord?

 
kun1he2
 
Maybe, but I've never seen this listed on DCF, try using Google.
 
Bev.

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May 15th, 2012 09:00

Thanks, realised that that was the case...

But I guess it is still possible that someone here might have mapped out the pin configuration on their own accord?

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May 15th, 2012 09:00

kun1he2

Dell has never published the pin outs of their front panel connectors/cables.

Bev.

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May 15th, 2012 09:00

U1456 Via 16 Pin Ribbon plugs into > M5989 Board then Via 20 pin Ribbon Plugs into >motherboard.

You would have to reverse engineer the 2 boards and ribbon cable to figure out which goes where.

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May 15th, 2012 10:00

Seeing as the Pins are VERY VERY TINY for the Front Panel Ribbon I do not believe that anyone ever tried this.

If I Did do such a thing it would be to the Pins on the 16 pin header which are inside on the back face of the machine

ITEM #1

With a meter it should be possible to trace the push button pins on the Front Control Panel Board.

HOWEVER Given the AGE of this system its much more likely that the power supply is bad.

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May 15th, 2012 22:00

Not sure if this link actually holds the key?

scarvell.net/.../index.php

Which pins do I short to simulate a power button press?  Pin 20 and... ?

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May 16th, 2012 07:00

That Link is a good Guess.   OM686:Dell 0M686 GX260 TOWER Front USB Audio Panel is the same on the GX280 and Dimension 8400 etc with SKYDIVE Mini Tower.  I don't see an exact correlation between this and the power switch however.  If you guess wrong you may damage things. 

Looks Very Similar to

http://www.lnmdesign.com/400sc/front_pnl.html

Front Panel

Located halfway up under the front bezel section with the ventilation holes.

Photo available of the backside and a super-duper overlay and a bigger size front.

Connector List:

  • CTRL_PNL: Control Panel connector, 16-pin, two-row, jumper-spaced, Pin 1 is missing, blocked on the connector.
  • FNT_PNL: Front Panel (connects to motherboard). 34-pin, two-row, tight-spaced, Pin 21 is missing.
  • AUDIO_CABLE: Connects to motherboard. Single-row, 10-pin, tightly-spaced; Pin 7 is missing.
  • INTRUDER: Connects to the chassis intrusion detector switch. Single-row, 5-pin, jumper-spaced. 5-pin version of the 4-pin CD-AUDIO connectors.
  • EXT_SPK: Optionally connects to external speaker.
  • HP_OUT: Headphone out. Stereo 3.5mm jack.
  • USB_FNT: Front USB connectors. Double USB connector.

CTRL_PNL

See Control Panel documentation.

From the pin-side:

Pin Description Connects to FNT_PNL Pin
1 Removed and blocked on the connector
2 PWR SWITCH LEFT SIDE (Both) 20
3 GND GND
4 HDD LED NEG 22
5 PWR LED GREEN POS 23
6 HDD LED POS 5 thru R19
7 GND GND
8 ESUP SWITCH RIGHT SIDE (Both) 28
9 PWR LED YELLOW POS 27
10 N/C
11 GND GND
12 N/C
13 ESUP LED NEG 24
14 ESUP LED POS 5 Thru R20
15 GND GND
16 GND GND

FNT_PNL

From the pin-side:

Pin Description Connects to
1 INTRUDER 3 INTRUDER 3, FNT 32
2 VCC ?? FNT 3, FNT 4
3 VCC ?? FNT 2, FNT 4
4 VCC ?? FNT 2, FNT 3
5 LED VCC CTRL 6 thru R19, CTRL14 thru R20
6 ?  
7 ?  
8 INTRUDER 5 INTRUDER 5
9 GND GND
10 GND? GND?
11 GND GND
12 ?  
13 ?  
14 GND GND
15 ?  
16 GND GND
17 ?  
18 ?  
19 GND GND
20 PWR SWITCH LEFT SIDE (Both) CTRL 2
21 Pin removed
22 HDD LED NEG CTRL 4
23 PWR LED GREEN POS CTRL 5
24 ESUP LED NEG CTRL 13
25 GND GND
26 ?  
27 PWR LED YELLOW POS CTRL 9
28 ESUP SWITCH RIGHT SIDE (Both) CTRL 8
29 GND GND
30 INTRUDER 1 INTRUDER 1
31 EXT_SPK 2 EXT_SPK 2
32 INTRUDER 3 INTRUDER 3
33 EXT_SPK 4 EXT_SPK 4
34 EXT_SPK 1 EXT_SPK 1

AUDIO_CABLE

From pin-side:

Pin Description Connects to
1 GND GND
2 OUT LEFT 3.5 jack tip
3 GND GND
4 OUT RIGHT 3.5 middle ring
5 GND GND
6 ?  
7 Pin removed
8 ?  
9 ?  
10 GND GND

INTRUDER

From pin-side:

Pin Description Connects to
1   FNT 30
2 GND GND
3   FNT 1, FNT 30
4 GND GND
5   FNT 8

EXT_SPK

From pin-side:

Pin Description Connects to
1   FNT 34
2   FNT 31
3 GND GND
4   FNT 33

HP_OUT

From solder-side:

When unconnected to a 3.5 jack:

When connected to a jack:

Pin Description Connects to
1 SENSE GND if connected, otherwise Base Ring (floats)
2 GND GND
3 SENSE GND if unconnected, otherwise floats
4 SENSE GND if connected, otherwise Base Ring (floats)
5 GND GND
6 SENSE GND if unconnected, otherwise floats
7 Left channel Tip
8 GND if connected, otherwise floats Base Ring
9 Right channel Middle Ring

USB_FNT

This I cannot be bothered with, way too many surface mounted components. You are welcome to drop me an email (@ 400sc-at-peterlada-dot-com) if you draw a circuit diagram, or have any info.


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