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March 12th, 2018 05:00

Audio issue N5010 IDT (cannot make headset as default device)

Hello all!

System Info

Dell Inspiron  N5010

Audio info - SRS Premium IDT

 

I want my headset to work properly when connected but it is not.

Either it works both speaker and headset (tried muting speaker then headset also muted)

or

works only with the speaker

the most important thing to let you know is that my headphone driver is not be able to set as default in the "playback devices" tab

Any help would much appreciated or even ready to share my system through teamviewer.

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March 19th, 2018 18:00

 

I don't think it is a bug in the IDT audio driver becuase the issue is also present when the Windows native audio driver is installed.

You could perform a full system recovery (use the Factory Image to return the laptop to its original factory configuration) which would fix all software issues, but it would be pretty time consuming in the end.

A workaround would be to get an inexpensive usb audio jack. You would enable usb audio when you want to use headphones and no audio would come out of the speakers because the speakers are an extension of the IDT system and Windows would not allow both the usb audio and IDT audio to both be the default playback device at the same time. You could enable IDT audio when you wanted the speakers to work.

Sorry for taking so long to reply.

 

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March 12th, 2018 06:00

 

@lionelchakra  "System Info Dell Inspiron  N5010 Audio info - SRS Premium IDT"

 

What is the operating system? The only supported OSes are XP, Vista 32  & 7 32 & 64 bit.

 

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March 12th, 2018 06:00

 

I would test with the native driver then reinstall the IDT.

1. Open the Device Manager
2. Expand the "Sound, Video & Game Controllers" section.
3. Right click on "IDT High Definition Audio Codec" and select to uninstall.
4. Put a check mark in the option to delete the driver software, and then ok.
5. Restart the laptop.


When the laptop boots up it will look for the IDT files that were removed in step 4. If none found then it will install the native driver. If an earlier version of an IDT driver had been downloaded then its files could still be in the laptop and Windows would install that version of the IDT, not the native driver. So after step 5, go back to the Device Manager and check again for an IDT driver. Keep uninstalling & restarting until "IDT High Definition Audio Codec" no longer appears under Sound...Controllers. If you see "High Definition Audio Device" that is the native driver.

To re-install the IDT audio driver you will have to download it again.

Test the headphones while the native driver is installed. If it still doesn't work right then probably hardware failure.

March 12th, 2018 06:00

Hi Jim,

Thank you for your reply.

Window 7 64 bit.

March 12th, 2018 07:00

Thanks again!

I tried all 5 steps but yet no difference.

 

under audio device manager

-bluetooth handsfree

-high defintion

-intel display audio

 

But I am wondering that it is not a hardware issue, because I hear audio through the headset along with the speaker.

Cannot attach the image?

 

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March 12th, 2018 13:00

 

@lionelchakra  "But I am wondering that it is not a hardware issue, because I hear audio through the headset along with the speaker."

 

The test was to help determine if it is a driver issue. It seemed unlikely that there was a bug in one of the 8 year old IDT drivers that was only now manifesting. The fact there the issue is still there with the native driver makes it extremely unlikely to be a driver issue, because the chances are infinitesimally small that both drivers would suddenly develop a bug that would have the same symptoms at the same time. So what else could it be?

> Configuration issue. Each time you re-install the driver, either IDT or native, it resets the settings to the defaults. which would clear up any mis-configuration, so it's not that.

> Firmware. The only firmware that could have any effect is the BIOS, and it has not changed in 7 years.

> Windows. Hard to imagine where such a flaw could be in Windows. Reinstalling drivers resets the Registry values. The best test for Windows issues is a hard one, to perform a system recovery (reset the laptop to the original factory configuration). If doing that fixes the problem then it was something in Windows. If it doesn't then it's the hardware.

> Hardware. It might not be the hardware but I can't think of where else to look.

 

Your laptop model is capable of running the old Dell 32 bit Diagnostics suite of hardware tests. The audio suite of tests might be of use. Another test is to install Linux Live onto a bootable flash drive or a cd and boot up into Linux. This is a similar test in a way to the Dell 32 bit Diagnostics. Neither uses Windows or its drivers, so if the same problem exists outside of Windows and the Windows-based software then it is in the hardware. 

@lionelchakra"Cannot attach the image?"

A couple of months ago the forum moved to a new platform. The forum now is somewhat crippled in its functionality and as far as we can figure out only certain forum participants have the permission to include images in posts.

 

 

 

 

March 14th, 2018 01:00

@Jim Coates

Appreciating much for your time and effort for my issues.

I checked with diagnostic

This is what happened

initial check up
All pass if you want further full then it may take 30 mins - Yes

then after 30 Mins, diagnostic finished.It shown no reports of failure I guess. If so it would have listed it up(I remember from my previous experience). Hardware is fine then I believe.


Should I try Linux too?

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March 15th, 2018 04:00

 

@lionelchakra  "Should I try Linux too?"

Yes. That might be easier. Just google for Linux Live (not just Linux). There are various versions of it. The one I use for testing is called Puppy.

Puppy is a very compact version of Linux Live. You download and install it onto a bootable flash drive, then restart the computer and boot from the flash drive. Then you are in Linux without disturbing the Windows on the hard drive. When you are finished testing you just restart the laptop and boot back into Windows.

 

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March 15th, 2018 04:00

 

@lionelchakra  "I checked with diagnostic

This is what happened

initial check up"

That doesn't seem like you ran the audio tests in Dell 32 bit Diagnostics. The audio test will play a piece of music (not just a series of beeps or tones), and will ask you if whether or not you heard it.

Note that the tests will probably not be on your laptop. There were on a hidden partition on the original hard drive, so if the hard drive has ever been replaced or fully wiped then follow the links (my link to the instructions, then the link within the instructions) to download the tests onto a bootable flash drive or cd/dvd.

Your laptop will still have the PSA or ePSA tests because that is stored in the memory of the BIOS on the motherboard. That might have been the tests you ran, however the ePSA tests are not the equivalent of the Dell 32 bit Diagnostics as far as testing the audio.

 

 

March 16th, 2018 11:00

@Jim Coates

I have booted Puppy Linux live OS onto my computer.

I had the options for audio where I can select headset and speaker separately. When I unchecked speaker then I was able to hear the sound through the headset. From this shall we conclude  that windows has driver issues?

Thank you for your guidance until now.

Regards,

Lionel Chakra.

March 19th, 2018 09:00

Hi @Jim Coates,

In linux, headset is working but not in windows 7, Anymore ideas?

March 20th, 2018 00:00

Hi @Jim Coates,

Thank you very much for your help in trying to solve my issue. I appreciate really a lot of your efforts and time on this. Thanks again Dell-Genius.

Regards,

Lionelchakra

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March 24th, 2018 07:00

Hi 

This is a message for Jim Coates (or anyone else that can help) - apologies for hijacking this thread, but I cannot see another way of contacting Jim so I am responding to one of his posts.

The reason I am asking for advice from Jim is because he posted a solution to a problem I was having with my Dell laptop - the problem is that the headphone jack doesn't recognise when headphones are plugged in.  I followed the instructions on this thread here: https://www.dell.com/community/Laptops-General/Inspiron-15-3000-audio-jack-cant-detect-headphone/td-p/4479098 and the headphones worked when I switched to the High Definition Audio Device.

However I assume that rather than using the generic High Definition Audio Device, that there may be another Realtek High Definition Audio driver that I should use instead.  The only problem is I don't know which Realtek driver to use, nor where to find it.

The Dell Support websites only shows the one Realtek driver - it is as follows:

Importance: Recommended

Version: 6.0.1.8164 ,A00

Release Date: 17 Nov 2017

File Name: Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver_463FV_WIN_6.0.1.8164_A00.EXE

File size: 95.84 MB

Description: This package provides the Realtek ALC3254 Audio Driver and is supported on Inspiron 7370/7373/7570/7573 that is running the following Operating Systems: Windows 10 64-bit.

 

That Realtek driver doesn't allow me to use headphones.

The Laptop is an Inspiron 7373 2-in-1.

Please can someone help?

Many thanks

Reg

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March 25th, 2018 04:00

 

@regkebab"This is a message for Jim Coates (or anyone else that can help) - apologies for hijacking this thread"

Hello Reg. I am replying in the thread that you started so as not to go off on a tangent here.

 

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