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No Audio - dell diagnostics audio passes all test but no sound heard
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Inspiron 1440 Laptop - Sound suddenly stopped in Windows with Windows reporting no audio device is installed.
No beep sound when reboot and running POST tests.
Run Dell Diagnostics from a USB Memory Stick and choose Custom Tests -> Audio. All the tests are run and all passed, however no sounds are heard from the speakers during the sound tests. According to the FAQs I should be hearing some music played as the tests are running.
Questions:
- How can the audio tests all pass but still no sound be heard? Would it indicate that the laptop speakers are broken?
- Is there a separate PC speaker which makes the beeps? Is there some connection to why its not working also?
- Laptop outwith warranty...whats the options for getting sound back on the device? IS a USB sound card a viable option?
Thanks.
Jim Coates
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January 11th, 2013 04:00
The Dell Diagnostics audio tests are interactive in part, in the sense that you provide the results. The tests should have asked you if you heard the music and you should have answered "no". It is the "no" answer that would cause the tests to fail and generate an error code (which would just tell a technician that you answered no at that point in the tests). I don't have a screen shot of that but here is a shot of how it looks in the mic test section of the tests.
I don't know why that didn't happen when you ran the tests. Perhaps your version of the tests works differently.
That's a good question. I am not a hardware technician but I have not found a pc speaker inside my laptop. I have asked the same question to a technician who used to be a regular here but never got a satisfactory answer. My best guess is that at one time laptops had a separate pc speaker on the motherboard like desktops have, but I think modern laptops use the audio speakers for system tones. The fact that you don't hear POST tones could indicate non-functioning speakers, but if just the speakers are non functional that would not cause Windows to report no audio device installed so there is something else going on. (On my laptop I don't hear the POST beep because I have system tones turned off.)
The combination of not hearing the tones and the music in the tests plus getting the error message indicates hardware failure. The Windows error message by itself indicates that the audio driver needs to be re-installed, but If the audio driver will not install that is a symptom of audio failure at the audio chip level, not just the speakers. The ultimate diagnostic test is to return the laptop to the original factory configuration using Dell's Factory Image Restore. That will cure all Windows & driver problems with the audio, but if the issue persists at that point then it is definitely caused by hardware failure.
Yes, a usb sound card or even a basic usb audio adapter will bypass the onboard audio hardware, but will not route the audio signal back to the laptop's speakers so you need headphones or external speakers. I don't move my laptop anymore so I use a SoundBlaster usb card even though my laptop audio hardware still works. I just like some of the features of the external card better.
gec3sol
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January 13th, 2013 06:00
Hi jimco,
Firstly, many thanks for taking the time to answer my post with such a clear and concise reply. As you migt expect, your reply has generated some more questions from me.
This statement from you confused me as I was never asked this question. I tried the diagnostics again and still no questions being asked. I then executed the diagnostics on a different laptop and finally got the popup to ask if I heard the music. Of course, I had heard music on the other working laptop. Interestingly, on the working laptop there were 5 tests performed on Audio. However, on the laptop with no sound there was only 1 test run:
GOOD Working Laptop
Audio
Intel ICH4 Audio
Software Reset Test
Register Test
Interupt Test
Analog Sound Playback Test
Record and Playback Test
Laptop with no Sound
Audio
Intel HD/HDMI audio
Software Reset Test
So why would the 4 additional tests on a working laptop not be available in the diagnostics on the Inspiron 1440 with no sound?
Whilst in the diagnostics on the laptop with no sound, I tried the System Speaker -> Spraker Functionality Tests. These passed successfully and I heard the 8 speaker tones and received the popup asking if I heard the tones.
To summarise:
I have an Inspiron 1440 which can play tones using the system speaker in diagnostic tests, but plays no audio from the sound card. Additionally, the diagnostics only executes 1 test (Software Reset Test) and not the 5 tests which are found when executing diagnostics on a working laptop.
Any clues as to what might be wrong with the sound on this laptop?
Jim Coates
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January 13th, 2013 06:00
I have not heard of this exact problem before. There have been cases on laptops with failed audio chips where the Dell Diagnostics will run, but when attempting to run the audio tests under "Custom", no audio tests appear. So I have always considered that behavior in Dell Diagnostics to be a symptom of a failed chip. I can only guess in your case, but my guess would be failed or failing chip.
Vejay_Sarathy
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January 15th, 2013 02:00
Beep sounds on a Dell laptop comes from the speakers, There are no PC Speakers like in Desktops.
Press Fn + Power button -> When you get the color bars Press Y/N page -> Press N, -> You should get Red Green Blue Black White colors along with this you should hear beeps for each color. Let me know if you hear the beeps. If there is no beeps heard. Then your laptop speakers have gone bad.
Did you drop your laptop recently?
Try connecting an external headphone to the ports on the side and try playing music within windows and check whether you can hear sound. If you hear sound then the sound card is fine, there is a problem with only speakers.
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January 15th, 2013 05:00
Bad speakers would not account for all 3 symptoms: no POST beeps, Windows reports no audio device, and most of the audio tests are missing.
When Windows reports no audio device, there won't be any audio.
gec3sol
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January 16th, 2013 05:00
There are beeps heard during the graphics diagnostics test.
Laptop has been stationary on the same desk for the last 6 months. As recently as 2 weeks ago there was sound and then one day the sound stopped.
As JimCo noted...there is no audio device detected in Windows so no music can be played within any Windows application through either speakers or headphones.
Update: so only two places where any sounds can be heard from this laptop:
1) In the PC Speaker Diagnostic test when executing the latest Dell Diagnostics from a USB Memory Stick
2) In the graphics diagnositics test executed with a Fn + Power button switch on
No sounds heard in the Dell Diagnostics test and no sound card detected by Windows.
Going to be associate this to a failing or failed sound chip (as suggested by JimCo), assuming that PC Speaker-type tones are generated from a separate device to the sound chip. Unless anyone else has some ideas?
freddvolvo
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January 16th, 2013 11:00
Hi,
I have a similar problem as gec3sol - I also have a Studio 1440z - my personal machine.
The internal speakers cut off after a short time - but are barely audible if you put your ear next to them. The headphones work perfectly all the time.
This has been going on since I bought the system new over 3 years ago. I have replaced the drivers - more than once. I am a fully trained and qualified computer technician - been in the business for over 30 years. Each time I contacted Dell about this - they would tell me to install the latest drivers - fixes were made.. That went on until the warranty expired with no satisfaction. where the headphones worked, I was not anxious to get it fixed. but I came here out of curiosity to see if anything new has come up.
I would like to hear if someone had had the same exact experience - speaker volume is down to almost zero - while volume setting shows full, and headphones work just fine. Also equalizer bars on real Player show audio activity. there are no loose internal wires to the speakers
Jim Coates
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January 16th, 2013 12:00
I can't see any similarity at all there. suggest you start a new thread for your issue.
Jim Coates
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January 16th, 2013 13:00
I'm not sure to what extent the system tones depend on the audio hardware other than speakers. Maybe veejdeej knows. On my laptop the tones are not handled like ordinary audio. The tones only come through the speakers, not through headphones, so it's like the motherboard itself is generating the tones and sending them directly to the speakers. My laptop is quite old and was made before software switching was developed -- before HD audio, so on it there is no way for an audio signal that is generated by the audio chip to physically bypass the headphones that I can think of.
freddvolvo
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January 16th, 2013 13:00
Really - No similarity?
From gec3sol - "Inspiron 1440 Laptop - Sound suddenly stopped in Windows"
Sounds like the same attitude I got from Dell
I shall re-post and maybe get a different audience.
I hope my description is not too detailed to eliminate all hit and miss solutions.