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i8000/SXGA+ Radeon 7500 Upgrade Phase 1 SUCCESS!
I just wanted to report some very encouraging results that I've seen so far while upgrading my i8000. Here are the relevant specs:
* Inspiron 8000
* BIOS version A19
* SXGA+ (1400x1050) display; panel is an IBM part
- Information reported from XFree86:
(II) RADEON(0): Panel ID string: IBM IBM-ITSX95
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: IBM Model: 2193 Serial#: 16843009
(II) RADEON(0): Monitor name: IBM-ITSX95
* ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 (Dell part #9J057)
Procedure: I first upgraded the BIOS from A18 to A19 (just to be safe). I then replaced the Mobility M4 with the 7500. Upon powering up, it just worked. XFree86 is currently driving my panel at its native 1400x1050 resolution, without changing so much as a line of my XF86Config file!
I'm not ready to declare complete success yet, because I haven't even tried to boot into Windows yet, much less try any 3D games. I will still need to install W2K drivers for the 7500, and I suppose there's a slight chance that Windows won't drive the panel at 1400x1050 for some odd reason--although typically if XFree86 can do something, Windows will do it too.
This should be encouraging news to many, since the conventional wisdom has been that the 7500 would not work with the SXGA+ display. From what I can see right now, it looks like the conventional wisdom may be due for a little revision!
I'll post more info as I find it out, including whether the M4 will fit into/work with the i4000...
Cheers,
Jeremy
* Inspiron 8000
* BIOS version A19
* SXGA+ (1400x1050) display; panel is an IBM part
- Information reported from XFree86:
(II) RADEON(0): Panel ID string: IBM IBM-ITSX95
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: IBM Model: 2193 Serial#: 16843009
(II) RADEON(0): Monitor name: IBM-ITSX95
* ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 (Dell part #9J057)
Procedure: I first upgraded the BIOS from A18 to A19 (just to be safe). I then replaced the Mobility M4 with the 7500. Upon powering up, it just worked. XFree86 is currently driving my panel at its native 1400x1050 resolution, without changing so much as a line of my XF86Config file!
I'm not ready to declare complete success yet, because I haven't even tried to boot into Windows yet, much less try any 3D games. I will still need to install W2K drivers for the 7500, and I suppose there's a slight chance that Windows won't drive the panel at 1400x1050 for some odd reason--although typically if XFree86 can do something, Windows will do it too.
This should be encouraging news to many, since the conventional wisdom has been that the 7500 would not work with the SXGA+ display. From what I can see right now, it looks like the conventional wisdom may be due for a little revision!
I'll post more info as I find it out, including whether the M4 will fit into/work with the i4000...
Cheers,
Jeremy
not_rich_yet
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April 5th, 2002 18:00
nry
Inspiron 8100, P3-M 1Ghz, 128MB Dell RAM 128MB Crucial, 20GB ATA-100 HD, Win XP Pro, 8xDVD, 15.1" 1400 x 1050 SXGA display, 2nd battery, 32MB GeForce2 Go, 56k Modem/LAN....V sweet!
jeremy_r
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April 5th, 2002 19:00
Now to finish tackling the Win2K driver installation... more details later!
johnallg
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April 5th, 2002 19:00
- I'll post more info as I find it out, including
- whether the M4 will fit into/work with the i4000...
We'll be waiting!! Congrats on your success - is it a 14.1 or 15 inch SXGA+?
John
_________________________________________________________________
I4000 700Mhz W98se
Fix for "Black Border Syndrome" = Fn + F7 key combo
Inspiron Fn Key Combos
3Com mini-PCI combo 10-100 NIC/56k Modem (part #313-7776)
GeForce2 Go video board part number - 4D597
ATI Radeon 7500 video board part numbers - 9J057 $169 and 9J066 $179 (both same part)
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 4169D = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 12.5mm drives
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 29MFN = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 9.5mm drives
I7.5 Media Bay parts: 4124T = carrier, 11 x 3771U = screws | $32.00
This Media Bay carrier holds 9.5 and 12mm 2.5" drives but not 19mm.
I8x00 internal hd carrier AND screws - 169CN - $4.95
Actiontec (Lucent 6.00) Driver link
Dell IBM Noise
IBM Travelstar Noise
8000 Updates for WinME (OSUPA00.EXE)
8100 Updates for W2K and WinME (28226.EXE)
I8kfangui
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johnallg
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April 5th, 2002 20:00
John
_________________________________________________________________
I4000 700Mhz W98se
Fix for "Black Border Syndrome" = Fn + F7 key combo
Inspiron Fn Key Combos
3Com mini-PCI combo 10-100 NIC/56k Modem (part #313-7776)
GeForce2 Go video board part number - 4D597
ATI Radeon 7500 video board part numbers - 9J057 $169 and 9J066 $179 (both same part)
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 4169D = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 12.5mm drives
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 29MFN = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 9.5mm drives
I7.5 Media Bay parts: 4124T = carrier, 11 x 3771U = screws | $32.00
This Media Bay carrier holds 9.5 and 12mm 2.5" drives but not 19mm.
I8x00 internal hd carrier AND screws - 169CN - $4.95
Actiontec (Lucent 6.00) Driver link
Dell IBM Noise
IBM Travelstar Noise
8000 Updates for WinME (OSUPA00.EXE)
8100 Updates for W2K and WinME (28226.EXE)
I8kfangui
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
US Mobile Computing Hotlines
Corporate/Government Accounts - 800-822-8965
Direct Accounts - 800-247-9252
Outside of the United States - Contact Dell in your global area.
Dell Spare Parts - 1-800-624-9896, select option 2, then 2, then 4
johnallg
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April 5th, 2002 21:00
John
_________________________________________________________________
I4000 700Mhz W98se
Fix for "Black Border Syndrome" = Fn + F7 key combo
Inspiron Fn Key Combos
3Com mini-PCI combo 10-100 NIC/56k Modem (part #313-7776)
GeForce2 Go video board part number - 4D597
ATI Radeon 7500 video board part numbers - 9J057 $169 and 9J066 $179 (both same part)
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 4169D = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 12.5mm drives
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 29MFN = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 9.5mm drives
I7.5 Media Bay parts: 4124T = carrier, 11 x 3771U = screws | $32.00
This Media Bay carrier holds 9.5 and 12mm 2.5" drives but not 19mm.
I8x00 internal hd carrier AND screws - 169CN - $4.95
Actiontec (Lucent 6.00) Driver link
Dell IBM Noise
IBM Travelstar Noise
8000 Updates for WinME (OSUPA00.EXE)
8100 Updates for W2K and WinME (28226.EXE)
I8kfangui
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
US Mobile Computing Hotlines
Corporate/Government Accounts - 800-822-8965
Direct Accounts - 800-247-9252
Outside of the United States - Contact Dell in your global area.
Dell Spare Parts - 1-800-624-9896, select option 2, then 2, then 4
0ldman
42 Posts
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April 5th, 2002 21:00
I wonder if there has been a BIOS update?
Do you know what brand LCD it is?
0ldman
42 Posts
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April 5th, 2002 22:00
time to do some research on IBM 15 SXGA+
0ldman
42 Posts
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April 6th, 2002 01:00
I dunno what IBM is hiding, I got a big fat Japanese 404 error.
it just irks me to no end when companies try to hide information about products we purchase.
btw, thanks for looking that up.
I finally gave up, couldn't find anything helpful.
Message Edited on 04/05/02 09:40PM by 0ldman
bobwalt
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April 6th, 2002 01:00
>>Electrical Interface 8 pairs LVDS?iEven/Odd R/G/B Data?i6bit?j,
3sync signals, Clock<<
The information for the ITSX93 specifies Dual in electrical interface so I suspect since the ITSX95 does not that it is single LVDS. Here is the url for the information: http://www-6.ibm.com/jp/oemj/lcd/products.html. Please note that IBM has removed this from the US sites so they may alsotake it down from here.
This leaves us back to the question of why was that first person who tried it on the SXGA+ on this forum unable to get the LCD to work on the 8100? I'm begining to think it would have worked if he had flashed it with the ATI bios update before he gave up. (BTW-if anyone says it is a driver issue I'll scream!)
Bob
the_gr8r
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April 6th, 2002 14:00
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Dell Inspiron 8100, P-III M 1ghz, 256mb, 30gb HD, Geforce2 Go 32mb, 15.1" SXGA, DVD/CDRW Drive etc...
jeremy_r
8 Posts
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April 6th, 2002 17:00
The most difficult part of this entire process, by far, was getting Win2K drivers to work. I finally was able to use the Omega drivers (from www.omegacorner.com). What I found to be a little odd is that I had to "point" Windows at the proper directory (with the INF file) and let it choose the correct driver. This in itself isn't odd I guess, but when I tried to pick the device manually from the INF file, no device types showed up. Because I'm a control freak or something, I kept trying to do this (unsuccessfully, I might add) until i finally gave up and let Windows pick the driver from that directory. Sure enough, it chose Mobility M7, and it worked the first time. So if anyone else is planning to do this upgrade, and likes to do everything manually like I do, be warned. :-)
Anyway, things still appear to be working great. I ran the DirectX tests and a few 3D games but haven't really done any benchmarking (I don't have any benchmark data from the old setup anyway).
Oh, and I also have an "extra" Mobility M4 with 32MB if anybody's interested. :-)
Cheers,
Jeremy
johnallg
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April 7th, 2002 00:00
John
_________________________________________________________________
I4000 700Mhz W98se
Fix for "Black Border Syndrome" = Fn + F7 key combo
Inspiron Fn Key Combos
3Com mini-PCI combo 10-100 NIC/56k Modem (part #313-7776)
GeForce2 Go video board part number - 4D597
ATI Radeon 7500 video board part numbers - 9J057 $169 and 9J066 $179 (both same part)
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 4169D = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 12.5mm drives
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 29MFN = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 9.5mm drives
I7.5 Media Bay parts: 4124T = carrier, 11 x 3771U = screws | $32.00
This Media Bay carrier holds 9.5 and 12mm 2.5" drives but not 19mm.
I8x00 internal hd carrier AND screws - 169CN - $4.95
Actiontec (Lucent 6.00) Driver link
Dell IBM Noise
IBM Travelstar Noise
8000 Updates for WinME (OSUPA00.EXE)
8100 Updates for W2K and WinME (28226.EXE)
I8kfangui
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
US Mobile Computing Hotlines
Corporate/Government Accounts - 800-822-8965
Direct Accounts - 800-247-9252
Outside of the United States - Contact Dell in your global area.
Dell Spare Parts - 1-800-624-9896, select option 2, then 2, then 4
johnallg
7.3K Posts
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April 7th, 2002 00:00
John
_________________________________________________________________
I4000 700Mhz W98se
Fix for "Black Border Syndrome" = Fn + F7 key combo
Inspiron Fn Key Combos
3Com mini-PCI combo 10-100 NIC/56k Modem (part #313-7776)
GeForce2 Go video board part number - 4D597
ATI Radeon 7500 video board part numbers - 9J057 $169 and 9J066 $179 (both same part)
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 4169D = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 12.5mm drives
I8K, I4K, I3.8K Media Bay parts: 29MFN = carrier; 4 x 53965 = screws | $32.00 for 9.5mm drives
I7.5 Media Bay parts: 4124T = carrier, 11 x 3771U = screws | $32.00
This Media Bay carrier holds 9.5 and 12mm 2.5" drives but not 19mm.
I8x00 internal hd carrier AND screws - 169CN - $4.95
Actiontec (Lucent 6.00) Driver link
Dell IBM Noise
IBM Travelstar Noise
8000 Updates for WinME (OSUPA00.EXE)
8100 Updates for W2K and WinME (28226.EXE)
I8kfangui
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
US Mobile Computing Hotlines
Corporate/Government Accounts - 800-822-8965
Direct Accounts - 800-247-9252
Outside of the United States - Contact Dell in your global area.
Dell Spare Parts - 1-800-624-9896, select option 2, then 2, then 4
not_rich_yet
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April 7th, 2002 10:00
All us UK users now need is to be able to easily get hold of the card!
nry
Inspiron 8100, P3-M 1Ghz, 128MB Dell RAM 128MB Crucial, 20GB ATA-100 HD, Win XP Pro, 8xDVD, 15.1" 1400 x 1050 SXGA display, 2nd battery, 32MB GeForce2 Go, 56k Modem/LAN....V sweet!
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April 7th, 2002 13:00
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