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Can you have 2 tape libraries on a single host?
I have a tape library attached to a host system and have been using it for years. We have recently purchased a duplicate tape system and I have attached it to the same host, but when I try to use it, it states that I have no license for it. I am currently running 7.2 but plan to upgrade to 7.4 or 7.5...
mfriedma
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October 20th, 2009 16:00
Hi,
NetWorker is licensed by the number of slots per jukebox. If you have 2 jukeboxes, you would need to have 2 licnses, each with the respected number of slots.
This licensing requirement does not change in the 7.4.X, 7.5.X releases.
If you are planning to upgrade I advise to read the Upgading NW to 7.4.X or 7.5.X tech note before the actual upgrade since it contains everything you wanted to know about the upgrade process. The tech notes can be found on PowerLink in the NW TechNotes area.
Regards,
Mickey
amediratta
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October 20th, 2009 19:00
Yes, you can have 2 tape libraries on a single host. Infact in a couple of sites, we are having three on one host each for their own SAN based backups. All you need is Autochanger license for each library based on the no. of slots each have.
Regards,
Anuj
lalexis
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October 21st, 2009 07:00
lalexis
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October 21st, 2009 11:00
That's cool, I never got that lucky. The first jukebox I had was 10 slots, then I had one that was 26 slots, now I have one that is 54 slots.
I can see the logic, kind of, of charging in blocks (for lack of a better word) of slots. Most people are going to want to see if they made a good purchase when buying that new jukebox so they will naturally want to enable enough slot to use the entire thing. They might actually lose money if they let you only get what you actually need.
amediratta
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October 21st, 2009 11:00
amediratta
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October 21st, 2009 11:00
lalexis
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October 21st, 2009 11:00
NW8oldtimer
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October 21st, 2009 11:00
Looks like I may have opened Pandora's box here...
I forgot to mention that I have the "unlimited slots" option. I guess I still need another license to run the jukebox and also get it another unlimited slots license...
On another jukebox I maintain, I had to disable a few slots to fit the closest license configuration without purchasing more than I could use...
Thank you all for your help and information!
amediratta
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October 21st, 2009 11:00
Yes, I have a 9 slot autochanger (Old HP one) and 1-9 slot license.
It would be wonderful if they charge only for the jukebox irrespective of the no. of slots but then I think they make more money charging for more slots and the logic goes like this: you pay more money for a larger library, you pay more money for the license to use it in Networker.
NW8oldtimer
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October 21st, 2009 12:00
The tape unit has 170 slots - I replaced the 360 slot jukebox a few years ago and kept the slot license...
I was hoping the unlimited slot count would work with the current unit and the new 170 slot jukebox...
I can't remember how much the unlimited cost new, but it is more then seven grand a year for maintenance!!
lalexis
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October 21st, 2009 12:00
AllanW1
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October 22nd, 2009 15:00
Looks like we have lots of interest in licensing. Over the past year or so, we have tried to make improvements in licensing for NetWorker to make things easier – and in most cases, lower cost. Some of the things we’ve done:
As for other improvements, if you were the EMC Product Manager responsible for making a balanced and attractive licensing structure, how would you approach it? Remember that you get to be both the customer and the vendor and you need to balance out the needs of both.
lalexis
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October 26th, 2009 07:00
Wait!
I no longer have to purchase ClientPak licenses?
Does that mean I can remove them from my maintainance contract?
Do I have to upgrade to a certain version for this to take effect?
I really need to find out what I REALLY need because we keep getting more and more budget cuts, I work for the state of South Carolina, need I say more?
I have a small setup here and am not totally sure why our part of the DR isn't included with the rest of the division's DR. Basically I just backup the Operations Department computers; 2 AIX servers, 1 running Oracle, 3 Windows 2003 servers, and 6 PCs running Windows XP. I have 1 54 slot IBM LTO2 jukebox with 3 drives. That's it, there might not be much there but those 2 AIX servers are critical, they hold ALL the crucial data for us.
As for improvements in licensing, I would like to see each customer have a policy custom tailored to their needs. For example using my own situation; I do not need 64 slots for my jukebox so why not just charge me for 54? Also I am only backing up 11 clients which is practically nothing compared to some of the people where with thousands, so how about designing a package for low-end users like myself at a reduced cost, say less than 50 clients and have it include everything. I guess that was the idea behind the ClientPak.
That brings up a suggestion, at home I have a growing network and would like a cheap and easy to use backup program that could back everything up to one central PC (server). Keep in mind that these PCs have very little critical data (mostly pictures) on them so I would not want to spend a whole lot just to back them up. So how about a home version for just a couple hundred bucks and a small annual support fee (under $100)?
amediratta
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October 27th, 2009 02:00
This change of licensing happened I think with 7.4.1. You do not need ClientPaks now. You also don't need Cluster Client Connections and there are no more Tiers in application modules. For VMs, you can now have a VCC license. VSS enabler no more required.
Check the latest release notes, you will more reasons to upgrade.
lalexis
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October 27th, 2009 04:00
Now that you mention it, it does seem like I read that somewhere. I am going to go back through and see if I can find it and have it removed from our maintenance contract. I'm at 7.4 sp2.
Seems like I also read that I was supposed to be able to update all the clients from the server but I was never able to figure that out, or at least I never got it to work. So some of my clients are still at 7.3