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October 31st, 2013 02:00

SAP rman backup.

Hi

I have setup the NMsap as per the installation document.

However the backups are not going through correctly.

I have attached all the files as below.

getting the following errors in backinitSPS.log

backi

nt Backint exiting at with fatal error: Program not registered

in the debug file i get.

(pid = 2755) (date = 10/31/2013 10:14:46 AM) Please make sure a volume from the

pool 'unkown' is available.

(pid = 2755) (date = 10/31/2013 10:44:46 AM) The nsr_start() call failed with th

e error:

        (pid 2755) failed to authenticate with nsrmmd on host alsdnw.ialch.co.za

: Timed out

but in the initSPS.sap i have set the pool.

rman_send = "channel sbt_1'NSR_ENV=(NSR_SERVER=alsdnw.ialch.co.za,NSR_DATA_VOLUM

E_POOL=SAP,NSR_GROUP=ODA_SAPSPSDB,NSR_CLIENT=alsoda11-vip.ialch.co.za)'"

not sure why it is looking for a pool. then it asks for authentication. But current filesystem backups are fine.

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October 31st, 2013 20:00

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November 1st, 2013 01:00

First, do you really wish to use RMAN for this backup or will you use BRTools?  I personally use BRTools so I will probably miss some key ingredients top of the head, but... few things from what you mentioned:

- you do not need NSR_GROUP to be defined

- with BRTools at least, pool, client, server and group in past were defined in utl file only (with RMAN I assume you need only NSR_SERVER and NSR_POOL and eventually NSR_CLIENT if running in cluster - I see you use vip so I will assume some kind of DG or RAC environment there too)

- I think all errors later are caused by the initial fact that backint can't contact server so above might be irrelevant

- backint log suggests nsrd (RPC 390103) is not running on localhost which is correct - your client is not backup server.  This means that somewhere in configuration NSR_SERVER (or server) is not set correctly

- in sap file you set both send and parms - I believe just one should be set... and it is NSR_SERVER and not BACKUP_SERVER that should be used IMHO

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November 1st, 2013 01:00

Hi

Thanks for the reply.

I am using brtools as you can see from the attached config files. the initSPS.sap I use rman_util as per the setup document.

This is an ODA so i have to use rman due to the asm.

Cool will look at this now. Thanks.

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November 1st, 2013 02:00

Hi

New to this.

ODA stuff.

Please explain difference and why NMDA what would be the best way to go about it?

Regards

Wayne Mc Naughton

AME Africa Onsite Unix Administrator

Tel : +27 31 267 5918

Mobile : +27 84 407 4383

E-mail : wmcnaughton@stortech.co.za

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November 1st, 2013 02:00

Pool unknown only means it was not able to determine pool from server or client config.  One thing about debug output is that you get to see many messages and some may be misleading too.  My question would be: did you run client initiated backup here or server initiated?  If server initiated, try client initiated first and without any debug set.  Prior to that, make sure you have vip client defined with all permissions set (for remote access and for user coming via vip and physical host on admin list).

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November 1st, 2013 02:00

Some time ago we got ODA too and it was SAP team who asked this to be pure RMAN backup.  Not sure why since I found that BRTools can be installed (as per both Oracle and SAP articles), but I never dive deeper into that.  I believe also there was at least one more person recently with question to ODA who did backup via NMDA.

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November 1st, 2013 02:00

I have lgtonmda-1.2.0.1-1.x86_64.rpm already installed on the ODA as we are running an oracle database as well as a sap database which is oracle on the same box.

I have linked all the .so files already.

Just not sure which link to use for the sap. I have already linked /usr/lib/libnworasap.so to libobk.so

As per the EMC networker module for sap with oracle.

Do I have to change this in any way?

Will I still be able to use brtools or will it be a pure rman backup?

Regards

Wayne Mc Naughton

AME Africa Onsite Unix Administrator

Tel : +27 31 267 5918

Mobile : +27 84 407 4383

E-mail : wmcnaughton@stortech.co.za

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November 1st, 2013 02:00

When I said BRTools, I was referring to BRTools only

If I remember correctly, ODA should be backed up with NMDA (RMAN) and not NMSAP (if ODA would be Oracle Database Appliance).  Not sure if something has changed in respect to SAP integration in recent module release (4.5).

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November 1st, 2013 02:00

Try NMDA... it should work fine for sure.

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November 1st, 2013 02:00

Hi

Since taking out the BAckup_server line the backups run i see them writing on the sap pool but then it hangs and i get  this error. in debug file.

(pid = 32572) (date = 11/01/2013 10:41:41 AM) The NSR_STD_MSG_FD is not set.

(pid = 32572) (date = 11/01/2013 10:41:41 AM) lnm_nw_sess_open_backup: Entering.

(pid = 32572) (date = 11/01/2013 10:41:41 AM) lnm_nw_sess_create_job: Entering.

(pid = 32572) (date = 11/01/2013 10:41:41 AM) lnm_nw_sess_create_job: Exiting.

(pid = 32572) (date = 11/01/2013 10:43:24 AM) The nsr_start() call failed with the error:

        retry needed

(pid = 32572) (date = 11/01/2013 10:44:24 AM) Please make sure a volume from the pool 'unkown' is available.

(pid = 32572) (date = 11/01/2013 11:14:24 AM) The nsr_start() call failed with the error:

        (pid 32572) failed to authenticate with nsrmmd on host alsdnw.ialch.co.za: Timed out

we do not have a pool unknown.

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November 1st, 2013 02:00

Hi

I went in to br tools chose option 4 the backup database then continue.

It then runs until it get sto this.

BR0280I BRBACKUP time stamp: 2013-11-01 10.53.04

BR0521I Backup of database file save set piece - piece handle=SPS_bemlbqsq.416_1 tag=BEMLBQSQ comment=API Version 2.0,MMS Version 1.2.0.0

Then I see that the backup on the networker teminates and writing to pool stops .

Then I start seeing messages in logs.

Regards

Wayne Mc Naughton

AME Africa Onsite Unix Administrator

Tel : +27 31 267 5918

Mobile : +27 84 407 4383

E-mail : wmcnaughton@stortech.co.za

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November 1st, 2013 03:00

NMDA won't do any backups with of SAP - it will be pure RMAN backup of database.  So, with NMDA, only link to be done is the one for libnsrora.so -> libobk.so

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November 5th, 2013 21:00

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