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April 25th, 2013 03:00

Non certified drives throwing Faults

Hello,

We have a number of Dell blades running Perc h700 and Perc h710 cards.

Most of these are running Samsung 840 pro SSD drives, and Samsung 830 SSD drives - these drives are running perfectly fine, and simply show us as "non certified" and the array is "Non Critical", this causes no problems.

Now we've just installed some servers with the latest crucial 960GB SSD drives, and again it all works fine, but every time the machines boot it's reporting errors into the CMC log : 

  • Server 12 health changed to a critical state from either a normal or warning state.
  • Fault detected on drive 0 in disk drive bay 1
  • Fault detected on drive 1 in disk drive bay 1.
 
Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening?
 
Here are the omreports:
 
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root@zeus :emotion-53:# omreport storage vdisk
List of Virtual Disks in the System

Controller PERC H710 Mini (Embedded)
ID                        : 0
Status                    : Ok
Name                      : Zeus
State                     : Ready
Hot Spare Policy violated : Not Assigned
Encrypted                 : Not Applicable
Layout                    : RAID-1
Size                      : 850.00 GB (912680550400 bytes)
Device Name               : /dev/sda
Bus Protocol              : SATA
Media                     : SSD
Read Policy               : Adaptive Read Ahead
Write Policy              : Write Back
Cache Policy              : Not Applicable
Stripe Element Size       : 64 KB
Disk Cache Policy         : Enabled

root@zeus :emotion-53:# omreport storage pdisk controller=0
List of Physical Disks on Controller PERC H710 Mini (Embedded)

Controller PERC H710 Mini (Embedded)
ID                        : 0:0
Status                    : Non-Critical
Name                      : Physical Disk 0:0
State                     : Online
Power Status              : Not Applicable
Bus Protocol              : SATA
Media                     : SSD
Device Life Remaining     : Not Applicable
Failure Predicted         : No
Revision                  : MU02
Driver Version            : Not Applicable
Model Number              : Not Applicable
Certified                 : No
Encryption Capable        : Yes
Encrypted                 : No
Progress                  : Not Applicable
Mirror Set ID             : Not Applicable
Capacity                  : 893.75 GB (959656755200 bytes)
Used RAID Disk Space      : 850.00 GB (912680550400 bytes)
Available RAID Disk Space : 43.75 GB (46976204800 bytes)
Hot Spare                 : No
Vendor ID                 : ATA
Product ID                : Crucial_CT960M500SSD1
Serial No.                : 1311092FA641
Part Number               : Not Available
Negotiated Speed          : 6.00 Gbps
Capable Speed             : 6.00 Gbps
Device Write Cache        : Not Applicable
Manufacture Day           : Not Available
Manufacture Week          : Not Available
Manufacture Year          : Not Available
SAS Address               : 4433221104000000

ID                        : 0:1
Status                    : Non-Critical
Name                      : Physical Disk 0:1
State                     : Online
Power Status              : Not Applicable
Bus Protocol              : SATA
Media                     : SSD
Device Life Remaining     : Not Applicable
Failure Predicted         : No
Revision                  : MU02
Driver Version            : Not Applicable
Model Number              : Not Applicable
Certified                 : No
Encryption Capable        : Yes
Encrypted                 : No
Progress                  : Not Applicable
Mirror Set ID             : Not Applicable
Capacity                  : 893.75 GB (959656755200 bytes)
Used RAID Disk Space      : 850.00 GB (912680550400 bytes)
Available RAID Disk Space : 43.75 GB (46976204800 bytes)
Hot Spare                 : No
Vendor ID                 : ATA
Product ID                : Crucial_CT960M500SSD1
Serial No.                : 1311092FA619
Part Number               : Not Available
Negotiated Speed          : 6.00 Gbps
Capable Speed             : 6.00 Gbps
Device Write Cache        : Not Applicable
Manufacture Day           : Not Available
Manufacture Week          : Not Available
Manufacture Year          : Not Available
SAS Address               : 4433221105000000

root@zeus :emotion-53:# omreport storage controller
 Controller  PERC H710 Mini (Embedded)

Controllers
ID                                            : 0
Status                                        : Ok
Name                                          : PERC H710 Mini
Slot ID                                       : Embedded
State                                         : Ready
Firmware Version                              : 21.2.0-0007
Latest Available Firmware Version             : Not Applicable
Driver Version                                : 06.504.01.00-rh1
Minimum Required Driver Version               : Not Applicable
Storport Driver Version                       : Not Applicable
Minimum Required Storport Driver Version      : Not Applicable
Number of Connectors                          : 1
Rebuild Rate                                  : 30%
BGI Rate                                      : 30%
Check Consistency Rate                        : 30%
Reconstruct Rate                              : 30%
Alarm State                                   : Not Applicable
Cluster Mode                                  : Not Applicable
SCSI Initiator ID                             : Not Applicable
Cache Memory Size                             : 512 MB
Patrol Read Mode                              : Auto
Patrol Read State                             : Stopped
Patrol Read Rate                              : 30%
Patrol Read Iterations                        : 9
Abort Check Consistency on Error              : Disabled
Allow Revertible Hot Spare and Replace Member : Enabled
Load Balance                                  : Not Applicable
Auto Replace Member on Predictive Failure     : Disabled
Redundant Path view                           : Not Applicable
CacheCade Capable                             : Yes
Persistent Hot Spare                          : Disabled
Encryption Capable                            : Yes
Encryption Key Present                        : No
Encryption Mode                               : None
Preserved Cache                               : No
Spin Down Unconfigured Drives                 : Disabled
Spin Down Hot Spares                          : Disabled
Spin Down Configured Drives                   : Disabled
Automatic Disk Power Saving (Idle C)          : Disabled
Time Interval for Spin Down (in Minutes)      : Not Applicable
Start Time (HH:MM)                            : Not Applicable
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7 Technologist

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16.3K Posts

February 22nd, 2014 15:00

Just a note to the H700 blocking un-certified drives for those who read this and don't know ... one of the first firmware updates for the H700 lifted the block.

29 Posts

June 25th, 2014 19:00

I went with Intel 530s and the only annoyance is the false positive issue in OMSA.

Dells pricing for SSDs is so out of this world in it's arrogance I can only smile each time I fit an Intel 530.....:emotion-11:

29 Posts

June 25th, 2014 19:00

I went with Intel 530s and the only annoyance is the false positive issue in OMSA.

Dells pricing for SSDs is so out of this world in it's arrogance I can only smile each time I fit an Intel 530.....:emotion-11:

June 27th, 2014 10:00

I have the latest firmware. It is not that it won't boot but that POST stops when the controller insists on telling me these are non-certified drives. "Press a key to continue". So much for remote boot.

Just stupid. And I concur with the other posters that replacement drives take forever to order and deliver from Dell vs. so many other sources.

 

Michael

12 Posts

October 18th, 2014 16:00

And they reinstated the block later on.  Firmware A08 - A10 is currently (today) preventing me from migrating some off the shelf drives from an R510 (Perc 6/i) to an R710 (H700); they show up as "BLOCKED" just like the last time they did this.

8 Posts

August 2nd, 2015 00:00

Hello

Does anyone uses the Intel 530 without warnings?

I have a R620 server with two Intel 530 drives ( http://ark.intel.com/products/75331/Intel-SSD-530-Series-240GB-2_5in-SATA-6Gbs-20nm-MLC)

and both of them show warnings for ucertified drive.

any suggestions?

7 Technologist

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16.3K Posts

August 2nd, 2015 08:00

No matter what you do, they will always be uncertified ... there isn't anything you can do about that. You will have to choose between the warnings and the drives - keep the drives and live with the warnings or get rid of the warnings by getting certified drives.

8 Posts

August 2nd, 2015 13:00

Just excellent...

and to think that Dell certified drives are manufactured by Intel...

7 Technologist

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16.3K Posts

August 2nd, 2015 14:00

Obviously Dell doesn't make their own drives. ALL certified drives are made by major disk manufacturers - Seagate, WD, Toshiba, maybe even Intel. Certified drives have been loaded at the manufacturer with a specific certified firmware that will work with specific controllers. The drive may physically be identical to a generic/retail version of the same drive. Generic/retail settings in drive firmware is often not adequate and the need exists to tweak them to certain specifications.

11 Posts

November 30th, 2016 05:00

Is the drive firmware part of the drive itself or the attached circuit board? I ask because I replaced an original drive with the same model from Seagate - it's just not Dell branded or certified. Can I take the circuit board from the original drive and swap it to the new drive to make it "certified"? By the way, I replaced the original drive because the server indicated it was failing. I assume this is the physical mechanism and not the circuit board.

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February 17th, 2017 08:00

Update as of 17 Feb 17 this is still a problem and current firmware and drivers for the perc700 does not and has not lifted the block and this is still a major problem. We have 3 servers with this current problem R510, R520, R710. We bought them all with 5 year warranties and of coarse shortly after they come off warranty the drives start to fail. Even if Dell had drives for these older servers now they would cost a fortune so we go to Amazon our favorite friend. Anyways if anyone comes across a real solution to fix this besides changing drives or scrapping the servers we would still like to know. We run about a hundred Dell servers and there is little help from any of our sales reps or Dell for this. I suggest we all start looking for other brands for future buys. We are a school district and money is hard to come by so we run servers on average 8 years and they should be fine except for hard drive replacements. It seems Dell does this to force you into buying new servers every 5 years or so great if you can pass the cost along but for us it means higher property taxes to the community or a bond.

5 Posts

February 17th, 2017 09:00

We moved to Intel drives back when this happened and we stopped getting alerts. Maybe you could do the same? I just don't think the PERC really likes consumer level drives.

Filled our R720XD with - Intel DC S3500 Series 2.5" 480GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDSC2BB480G401 - No errors for years now, since I originally posted.

7 Technologist

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16.3K Posts

February 17th, 2017 11:00

There is not a blanket block on non-Dell drives, but they may still be blocked if they are not compatible.

3 Posts

December 3rd, 2017 05:00

Hi Joe,

Hope this is the answer you are looking for.

I have found a way to turn off the warning in Dell OpenManage on versions above 8.5.0

Check out my blog :-

toughtechsite.wordpress.com/.../

3 Posts

December 3rd, 2017 05:00

If anyone is still looking for a way to turn off warning notifications with non-certified drives, there is now a way to turn this off in the stsvc.ini file since 8.5.0 of Dell OpenManage Administrator.

For further info please check out:

toughtechsite.wordpress.com/.../

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