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October 13th, 2019 10:00

Dell precision T7920 Fan speed contoller

I got Dell precision T7920 workstation. During Rendering both CPU temperature rises to 90 degree Celsius. So my rendering preview stuck while rendering.

The main reason because fans running at low speed and its not cooling.

when I change fan speed to maximum in bios, then temperature drops between 60-80degree Celsius. but it's too noise.

I'm using my workstation remotely. 

So is there any software or hardware than can I control BIOS remotely.

or

 I need fan controller software, so than I can increase fan seed while rendering.

 

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October 14th, 2019 19:00

People in these forums like or recommend HWiNFO64 (download) more than some of the others.

It doesn't hurt to make sure heatsinks, fans, and vents are still clean.

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June 18th, 2021 08:00

Dell 7920 suffers from serious  thermal management designs.

That bulky shroud is inefficient and cannot cool down the CPUs correctly, specially the second CPU. Hot air from the first CPU blows to the second CPU, which is a stupid design. Tight spacing for CPUs would not allow to use other available aftermarket 3/4U heatsinks. So you are stuck to the original heatsinks or you should downgrade to some noisy 2U heatsinks for slim servers. 

Similar to what you explained, I also experienced the high temperatures around 80-88 during full CPU load.


However, I managed to reduce the temperature to around 75 at full load by installing two 80mm fans ; one at the  rear end of CPU1 and the other one at the inlet of CPU0. Also, I have increased the fan speed to 10% in bios. With those changes, the temperature of both CPUs stay around 35 at idle to 75c at full load, which I think is reasonable. 

Using hwinfo64 or speedfan was problematic because the fan speed could not be automatically controlled using pwm fan controllers. This is mainly because the controller in those software only allows for 3 levels of rpms. Also I experienced some BSOD using those software.

August 12th, 2021 08:00

Hello Rain_HH,

Can you possibly share photos of how you mounted the fans? I know I will screw this up somehow. Did you use a PWM splitter maybe from 4pin to 1X4pin + 1X3pin 

Any help is appreciated. There is not a lot posted on this subject except people complaining. 

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August 12th, 2021 15:00

I had the same probem with my Precision 5820 and more problem after i''ve added the RTX3090. But i found a good sollution. How the Dells fans at 100% have a huge noise, i replaced the Dell fans by Noctua Fans. How noctua fans are more sillent, i put the Fan Controller to maximum speed and now i have a processor temp at 68ºc in maximum charge or 30ºc at standard use.

And my RTX 3090 in maximum charge, the temp is 70ºc.

But caution! If you change your Dell fans by noctua fans you will need the adapter because dell fan connections have a diference sequence from standard connections!

August 13th, 2021 09:00

Thanks for that advice. I will look into that as well.

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August 13th, 2021 12:00

Hello picasso567,

I am running some costly simulations, and cannot open the computer now, but will post some pictures later.

This is what I did to reduce the temperature (it is a bit different from what I posted before):

1. I bought a 5V 80 mm Noctua fan which comes with a USB adapter (80x80x25mm). 


2. I bought another 12V 3-pin 80mm slim fan (80x80x15mm):

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX75213

or, even better (but noisier) fan: DSTIME-80mm-3-PIN-Brushless-Cooling


3. Some rubber bands or plastic zip ties

4. A 5pin to 4pin fan adapter from Amazon

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I realized that the major issue is with the temperature of CPU1. So I mounted both fans on the heatsink of CPU1. I left CPU0 as is because when I raised the minimum fan speed to ~10% from the BIOS, the temperature for CPU0 is OK by itself (~73 at 100% load).

Anyways, I placed the 80mm USB fan (Noctua fan) at the downstream of the of heatsink CPU1 to suck the air and the slim CPU fan at the upstream end of heatsink CPU1 to blow the air (the upstream end is facing the BIG middle fan in the air shroud ). I used the rubber bands to tighten the fans to the heatsink of CPU1. You could use a zip tie, but needs a bit of work to properly close the air shroud.  I connected the 5v Noctua fan to the internal USB port, and the slim 3-pin fan to the fan header for CPU0 using the adapter.

Note: I had to use a slim fan for the upstream end because the big middle fan would not give enough space for another 80x80x25mm Noctua fan. So this way, both fans (the USB fan and the 3pin fan) are working at their full speed always without adding lots of noise. Both fans were relatively quiet. I always look at the Air Flow and Noise level when buying fans to ensure enough air can be blown with small noise. (although, the slim fan does the same job as the big middle fan in the air shroud, but at low minimum fan seed set in the BIOS, the amount of air provided by the fan in the air shroud  is not enough to properly cool down the CPU1. Using this dedicated fan more air flows directly into the heatsink1)

Note: I could use a Y-splitter to attach two 12V PWM fans to CPU1 header - 3 fans to one header (i.e., the middle header where the big fan is installed)-, but there are some concerns: first you have to ensure that the fans would not draw a lot amperage from the same header, secondly the RPM of the fans should be enough. I realized that when you use PWM fans, the RPM would not increase a lot unless the temperature is above 85 ish which is not ideal. Therefore, I have used two dedicated full speed fans with low noises. 

Note: You can increase the minimum speed of the original fans (CPU zone) to above 50-70%, and ignore this modification, but the system becomes noisy and inefficient. That was the reason I used this small modification to add two 80mm fans. 

Note: I have tried almost all available aftermarket active heatsinks (like 2 and 3U Dynatron). But either they won't fit or the temperature reduction was not substantial. There might be a way to fully remove the air shroud and the plastic cage attached to the motherboard and replace the heatsinks with some Noctua heatsinks but I have not tried this. I need to carefully measure the height of the heatsinks to see if they can fit. 

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August 13th, 2021 14:00

You can find the Dell 5pin to 4pin on Ebay. But caution... my Dell T5820 motherboard have 5 and 4 pin connectors and THE TWO (4 and 5 pin) connectors on Dell Motherboard have the plug sequence changed if compared to standard pins. How i found only 5 pin to 4 pin adapters on ebay, and my motherboard have some 4pins plugs, i take my 4 pin fans from the original Dell fan and i removed this plug and i switched the ebay adapter plug 5pin by this one, replacing then by a Dell 4 pin connector (Dell 5 pin and 4pin have the same sequence, the difference in 5pin is one plug havent connector, is in blank). But this change is only to the 5pin plug from adapter! You can not modify the another plug (4 pin standard) in the adapter cable. It works ony to dell 4pin fan connector. In the 5pin s connector the adapter wont need be modified (because the adapter is 5 to 4 pins and you wont find 4pin dell adapter to 4 pin standard).

After this, i connected the Noctua fans in the adapters and they are working fine.

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August 27th, 2021 02:00

Hi there,

 

Just wanted to let you know that our internal team is still working on this one.

We'll get back as soon as we have an udpate. 

May 2nd, 2023 19:00

This is an old thread, but an important one.  This has been an issue for years and I have a Dell Precision 7920 that was built around 12/2022 and am testing it as I am responding to this thread using prime95.  At this time, CPU0 = 66degC and CPU1= 86degC.

What is your solution for solving this issue?

It seems that the only working solution is using fans to remove the heat.  Has Dell come up with a solution?

Thanks.

George

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May 27th, 2023 15:00

Hi - Still waiting on an update on this. I'm seeing very high temps under load.

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May 28th, 2023 11:00

Did you see the previous replies with replacing Dell fans with Noctua fans (adapter(s) required) and running them on max?  Noctua fans on max are much quieter than Dell fans on max.

If it'll fit, another thing to consider is water cooling.

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May 30th, 2023 08:00

Of course I read the previous responses. Replacing Dell fans with unsupported fans is not a solution from Dell - which was my request.

Running the fans at max power all the time is obnoxious - if I wanted a hairdryer under my desk, I'd have bought a t-class PowerEdge server. 

 

For those of you running a linux variant on this box - installing i8kutils does a nice job of managing the fans and keeping CPU temps below 80 degrees, even at max utilization.signal-2023-05-30-104325_002.png

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February 3rd, 2024 04:57

Ace, when you were managing the fans in linux, did you find the fans were able to achieve speeds other than low or max?  I'm using Fan Control in windows, and I'm able to control the CPU fan speed with a combination of the two CPU temps.  However I've found that the fan will only run at ~800 rpm or at 4000 rpm.  I can't control it to anywhere in between.  If I put max load on all CPU cores and have the fan go to 100% speed, I sit at around 68-72C for both CPU's, but of course it sounds like a jet engine.  I'm wondering if that's an issue with the fan itself not responding to PWM control, something on the motherboard that doesn't provide true PWM control, or something in software that isn't working correctly.

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March 7th, 2024 13:44

I have the same problem since I bought my Dell T7920.  I have 2 Xeon Gold 5220R. In full load, one is at 65°C, the other is at 85/90 °C (knowing that the maximum temperature indicated by Intel for these processors is 86°C Processeur Intel® Xeon® Gold 5220R :)) And the default fan profile only increases the fan speed very slightly. compare to rest  

I don't understand why the fan profile can't be set manually in the bios or even via one of Dell's desktop applications, as is the case with most gaming motherboards. It's crazy ...

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March 28th, 2024 16:07

Hi, I have interested in this topic too.

I have Dell T7820 with xeon Gold 6138 bought on ebay. And I bought riser card with xeon Gold 6138 on ebay too. But I don't have cover on riser card.

I installed Fedora 38 on the machine, and fans controlled by bios.

Last week, the surrounding temperature has been increased, because springs is comming. So, CPU temprature has been increased, and then It had sounds like a jet engine every hour.

When I checked the balance between fans speed and noises volume,  I got good value of fan speed by rpm unit. But I could not control fans in rpm units by using pwmconfig and fancontrol.service.

Now I'm finding a way of water cooling, but maybe there are no compatibility with pwm interface.

I'm out of luck. There's no way.

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