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AbsoluteJoe
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June 29th, 2014 16:00
Why has Dell crippled the Windows control panel advanced power configuration options on the Venue 8 Pro ?
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Dell crippled the Windows control panel advanced power configuration options on the Venue 8 Pro.
Dell needs to provide a fix the restores full Windows advanced power plan configuration functionality.
I don't mind Dell adding a new Windows power plan as the default but they should not cripple the Windows power configuration panel, power options, or remove the standard Windows power plans.
AbsoluteJoe
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Posted June 30th, 2014 21:00
Yes, it seems like hibernate + fast boot - not traditional OS sleep. The BIOS is definitely getting involved in a fast boot restart (Dell BIOS logo appears). So the "Sleep" option is misleading. The processor and/or power states needed for true OS sleep do not seem to be enabled or available. It's fortunate that fast boot is very quick - but it's not a true sleep allowing wakeup by traditional means.
AbsoluteJoe
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Posted July 1st, 2014 07:00
iGetThis,
We're straying off topic, but at least there are a few "paranoid" security minded folks, like us, who have been around for awhile and see the dark sides of CS. Also, there is a real false sense of security being spun about Bitlocker and TPM as well. It all sounds secure until the next backdoor is found, or the Bitlocker or TPM keys are cracked, or bypassed by those who already have the "secret" keys. And all the secure platform stuff doesn't automatically protect your or your system, especially if its running and has access to the web. So many tablet devices don't even have a physical off switch for their wi-fi or cell modules. We know that any legit app can cross the line, become malware, or open backdoors to hijacking. Well it's all so transparent to security minded folks like us. I'd LOL too if it didn't bother me so much.
Bottom line - Legacy OS sleep full functionality needs to be restored when CS is disabled. And shutdown must truly turned off and powered down the device even with CS enabled.
Interesting--it didn't work that way for me. If I recall, the Sleep option was there initially but then disappeared once I delved into the action options (almost as if it was a vestige of the earlier settings). And when I used the power button to power down, the system hibernated (one could tell, as the front-side LED flashed), not slept. When I have the time and energy, will have to try it again and see what happens.Mikerman,
With CS disabled, sleep mode is still available under "Power buttons and lid" options.
I set my Venue 8 Pro to sleep when the power button is pressed and it seems to work. :Press the power button again, for a couple of seconds, the Dell boot logo apprears and the system quickly wakes up.
That is not connected standby. Connected standby by just press the power button ones the system comes back immediately (not holding it a few seconds). If the Dell logo appears it sounds more like hibernate and fast boot. [/quote] I think you're right. And when I had disabled CS, it in fact was a very fast start-up. AbsoluteJoe, do you get a flash of the front LED when you close down? If so, it's hibernate (as vs. sleep).[quote user="AbsoluteJoe"] Mikerman,
With CS disabled, sleep mode is still available under "Power buttons and lid" options.
I set my Venue 8 Pro to sleep when the power button is pressed and it seems to work. :Press the power button again, for a couple of seconds, the Dell boot logo apprears and the system quickly wakes up.
- That is the way it is. Either you let Windows manage everything (standby / sleep using connected standby) or user defined without it. So far I have not found a way around it for these kind of devices that are designed for connected standby.
As far as I know Windows does not have / use normal sleep mode, only Standby (Connected Standby) for devices that use / are designed for and support it. AbsoluteJoe
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Posted June 30th, 2014 13:00
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I have some real security concerns about my tablet, phone, or desktop actually running in ultra low power mode when I think that it is shutdown. The TPM will allow anyone with the secret access key (Microsoft, CIA, NSA, others?) to take control of the system, track you, access your programs and files, etc. And Windows running in CS lets programs and apps do the same - a bonus for hijackers. The fact that CS disables so many power, sleep, and other options make me really suspicious about the true motives of those supporting it.
I'm a retired software developer/designer and I know that there are a lot of folks developing Win 8 apps and programs that run in the background and do all sorts of nasty things to collect data and violate privacy - CS gives them 24/7 access. :emotion-45:
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AbsoluteJoe
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Posted June 30th, 2014 13:00
Mikerman,
With CS disabled, sleep mode is still available under "Power buttons and lid" options.
I set my Venue 8 Pro to sleep when the power button is pressed and it seems to work. :Press the power button again, for a couple of seconds, the Dell boot logo apprears and the system quickly wakes up.
Devedander
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Posted June 30th, 2014 17:00
Maybe give this a try?
iGetThis
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Posted June 30th, 2014 10:00
Again, not 100% sure if it's MS or Dell doing it but my guess would be Microsoft because I have seen the same with different units.
If you disable connected standby all Windows power plans are displayed and all advanced power functions are available.
Use Regedit and change the below:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power
Change the value of the key CsEnabled from 1 to 0 and reboot.
1 means connected standby enabled and 0 disabled.
Try it and see if it resolves your problem.
BTW: by disabling connected standby the battery display will also show the remaining time not just the percentage of battery life. :-)