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May 8th, 2012 10:00

TDAT cylinder size best practises

Hi

    We just added 116 + 4 spares , SATA 2 TB drives into the new disk group. I am trying to determine the Cyl size and the volume count for this disk group. Below are my current disk group information and basing on the facts I got 13 hypers on a 1TB drive and 8 hypers on 600GB drives irrespective of the type of drive FC/SATA. Would it be fair to carve 26-28 hypers on a 2 TB drives following the analogy ?

Basically my question is to find out the tdat count and size for the new disk group for VMAX 5875 and for RAID 5

DG - 1 , 7.2K & 1TB

Ident    Symb Int TID        Vendor     Type              Hypr   Total       Free      Actual

------ ---- --- --- ---------- ---------- ---- ---------- ---------- ----------

DF-1A  01A    C   4      SATAHGST   C02THJK      13     953870          1    1823565

DG - 2 , 7.2K & 1TB

Ident  Symb Int TID Vendor     Type                 Hypr   Total       Free      Actual

------ ---- --- --- ---------- ---------- ---- ---------- ---------- ----------

DF-1A  01A    C   0 SATAHGST   C02THJK      14     953870          5    1823565

DG-3, 10k RPM & 600FC

Ident  Symb Int TID Vendor     Type                 Hypr   Total       Free      Actual

------ ---- --- --- ---------- ---------- ---- ----------  ---------- ----------

DF-1A  01A    C   8 SEAGATE    ERC6010       9     558281          4     558281

DG-4 , 10k & 600 FC

Ident  Symb Int TID Vendor     Type       Hypr   Total       Free      Actual

------ ---- --- --- ---------- ---------- ---- ---------- ---------- ----------

DF-1A  01A    C   C SEAGATE    ERC6010       8     558281          8     558281

Would appreciate for an answer

May 8th, 2012 10:00

Thanks for quick response. Yes the client demands for RAID 5 3+1. No I am configuring separate pool.

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May 8th, 2012 10:00

A couple of things.

Are you sure you want RAID5 on SATA?

What RAID5?  3+1 or 7+1? 

Are you planning on putting those in the same pool with the 1TB drives?

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May 8th, 2012 11:00

The most important thing is to have the same number of TDATs on each drive.

From my calculations, a 2TB drive has 1,915,210 cylinders.

So the total usable capacity is that times 3 for 3+1 or 5,745,630

The largest hyper you can create is 262,668, but that won't go in evenly.

So I would create 22 3+1 TDATs on each set of 4 drives size of 261,165 and repeat for a total of 638 TDATs.

May 8th, 2012 11:00

Thanks for the concept and all the TDAT no's and cyl sizes match to my existing below DG's (table below) and that is what I am looking for.

        There is one quick thing that did not match 2 TB = 1915210 Cyl as basing on below

Cylinders = GB / 15 / 128 / 512 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024

2236962  = 2048/ 15 / 128 / 512 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024         ??? Plz correct me if I missed something

Count

Size (cyl)

Group

Mirror Type

Special Type

280

0

1

NORMAL

POWR

4

8738

1

2-MIR

SFS

1

3

2

2-MIR

ACLX

56

3

2

2-MIR

None (GKs)

612

246897

1

3RAID5

TDAT

612

249083

2

3RAID5

TDAT

912

73288

3

2-MIR

TDAT

616

219870

4

3RAID5

TDAT

616

219870

5

3RAID5

TDAT

624

219870

6

3RAID5

TDAT

624

219870

7

3RAID5

TDAT

May 8th, 2012 12:00

You are right . Great and thanks a lot for your help. You made my day

Ident  Symb  Int TID       Vendor     Type       Hypr   Total       Free         Actual
------ ---- --- --- ---------- ---------- ---- ---------- ---------- ----------
DF-2A  02A    D  28 SATAST     C02TMSP       0    1915210    1913711    1915210
DF-2A  02A    D  2A SATAST     C02TMSP       0    1915210    1913711    1915210
DF-2A  02A    D  2C SATAST     C02TMSP       0    1915210    1913711    1915210

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May 8th, 2012 12:00

I looked at the drive in SymmWin and it had DB2DADD1 blocks. 

I know that the 2TB drive is formatted differently than the 1TB drive to gain performance, but some capacity is lost.

You can see the actual cylinder count on your drives with the symdisk list -cyl command.

May 8th, 2012 12:00

Will configure and let you know how it goes.

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May 8th, 2012 12:00

Although you may want to use the "free" count.  I doubt it will let you use more than is free.

May 18th, 2012 12:00

Hi Quincy

    This is what my SA recommeded finally and I carved with this measurements

616 - Raid 5 (3+1) 261161 cyl TDATS. Its almost same as your recommended size but not sure why the no of TDAT's are 616 ?

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May 18th, 2012 12:00

The number of TDATs should work out so that every disk has the same number of them.

If not, have the SA do it over, or have them talk to me.

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