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October 16th, 2014 08:00

EMC Recommended RAID Configuration

Hi,

I would like to know the recommended number of disks on RAID 5, RAID10 and RAID 6 for VNXe. We will be using Pool. I understand the following and would like to know more detail....

RAID 5 - 4+1, 8+1, and then ???? (can we have 6+1?) I also heard that RAID 5 uses multiple of 5. If so, why we have 8+1??

RAID 10 - 2+2, 4+4, and then ????

RAID 6 - 4+2, 6+2, 12+2 and then ????

Please correct if I have wrong number of RAID. Again, this is for VNXe. EMC Recommended SATA drives to use with RAID 6 even if 1TB, correct?

Thank you,

Ramesh

121 Posts

October 17th, 2014 06:00

I think you missed the attachment.

121 Posts

October 17th, 2014 06:00

Sorry. Not helpful.

98 Posts

October 17th, 2014 06:00

All supported RAID Configurations for VNXe are provided on the attached Whitepaper

Additionally starting with Software Code 2.4.0 below new RAID Configurations are supported.

New RAID configurations

VNXe now supports the following RAID configurations:

RAID 5 (10+1) for SAS and NL-SAS disks

RAID 6 (10+2) for NL-SAS disks

RAID 5 does not have to be in multiples of 5 the name is as per the hierarchy like RAID 0 , RAID 1 and so on ....

RAID 6 can only be configured with NL SAS Drives.

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October 17th, 2014 06:00

98 Posts

October 17th, 2014 06:00

It is attached

121 Posts

October 17th, 2014 07:00

Just want to quickly check. Our sales are selling VNXe 3300 with 9 15k drives and 12 7k drives. VNXe picks up 71 Raid5 with 1 hot spare and 102 RAID6 with no hot spare. Is this emc recommend or should we sell more drives?

98 Posts

October 17th, 2014 07:00

This is correct.

For all RAID 5 you need 1 hotspare for the first 30 drives and 1 hotspare for the next subsequent 30 drive pair.

NL SAS drives are configured on RAID 6 which is dual parity and does not need a hotspare as it can function with dual drive fault , the RAID will only go down if 3 drives fail at the same time which is rare.

RAID 5 can only sustain 1 drive fault.

98 Posts

October 17th, 2014 07:00

as updated earlier starting with the Software Code 2.4.0 it does support 10+2 for NL SAS Drives.

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October 17th, 2014 07:00

Selling with 9 SAS 15k drives seems a little odd, as there's no good fit for the recommended disk config in R5 (4+1, 6+1 or 10+1)  There is no 7+1 group config.

That config would be split over 2 dae's also as the NL-SAS are 3.5", so there will be many unused slots.

It's easy to recommend a more efficient design with recommended configs, but obviously it comes down to your customers requirements.

98 Posts

October 17th, 2014 07:00

We have no say on the number of drives , you will have to work with the customer to understand his usage in size and performance requirements and then decide the number of drives the customer needs.

121 Posts

October 17th, 2014 07:00

My concern is more on the number of drives for raid 5 and 6.

121 Posts

October 17th, 2014 07:00

Sorry. I have 61 R5 with 1HS on one DAE. 12 7k drives cross two DAE with empty slots. RAID 6 supports 102???

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October 30th, 2014 23:00

Hello RRAO,

The following table describes the supported RAID types.

VNXe3200:

   

RAID type

Description

RAID 1/0 (also called RAID 1)

Provides both high performance and reliability at medium cost, while providing lower capacity per disk. RAID 1/0 may be more appropriate for applications with fast or high processing requirements, such as enterprise servers and moderate-sized database systems.

RAID 1/0 requires a minimum of two physical disks to implement, where two disks are mirrored together to provide fault tolerance. A RAID 1/0 configuration can continue to operate as long as 1/2 of each mirrored disk pair is healthy. For example, if you have a RAID (2+2) configuration, you can lose two disks, as long as they are not the source and mirror of the same mirrored pair. If you lose both the source and mirror of the same mirrored pair, you must immediately replace the disks and rebuild the array.

  • RAID 1/0 (1+1): A minimum of two disks can be allocated at a time to a pool, with one used strictly for mirroring. To provide redundancy, one disk out of every two is an exact duplicate of the other, and the usable disk capacity for every two-disk group is approximately one disk (50%). This RAID configuration is equivalent to RAID 1.
  • RAID 1/0 (2+2): A minimum of four disks can be allocated at a time to a pool, with two used strictly for mirroring. To provide redundancy, two disks out of every four are exact duplicates of the other, and the disk usable disk capacity for every four-disk group is approximately two disks (50%). In addition, this configuration is striped to improve I/O performance.
  • RAID 1/0 (3+3): A minimum of six disks can be allocated at a time to a pool, with three used strictly for mirroring. To provide redundancy, three disks out of every six are exact duplicates of the other, and the disk usable disk capacity for every six-disk group is approximately three disks (50%). In addition, this configuration is striped to improve I/O performance.
  • RAID 1/0 (4+4): A minimum of eight disks can be allocated at a time to a pool, with four used strictly for mirroring. To provide redundancy, four disks out of every eight are exact duplicates of the other, and the disk usable disk capacity for every eight-disk group is approximately four disks (50%). In addition, this configuration is striped to improve I/O performance.

5

Best suited for transaction processing and often used for general purpose storage, as well as for relational database and enterprise resource systems. Depending on the disks used, this RAID type can provide a fairly low cost per MB while still retaining redundancy.

RAID 5 stripes data at a block level across several disks and distributes parity among the disks. No single disk is devoted to parity. Because parity data is distributed on each disk, read performance can be lower than with other RAID types.

  1. RAID 5 requires all disks but one to be present to operate. If a single disk fails, it will reduce storage performance and should be replaced immediately. Data loss will not occur as a result of a single disk failure.
  • RAID 5 (4+1): A minimum of five disks can be allocated at a time to each pool. Because of the way parity bits are used to provide redundancy, the usable capacity for every five-disk group is approximately four disks (80%).
  • RAID 5 (8+1): A minimum of nine disks can be allocated at a time to each pool. Because of the way parity bits are used to provide redundancy, the usable capacity for every nine-disk group is approximately eight disks (89%).
  • RAID 5 (12+1): (Not for general use) A minimum of thirteen disks can be allocated at a time to each pool. Because of the way parity bits are used to provide redundancy, the usable capacity for every thirteen-disk group is approximately twelve disks (92%). This configuration should only be used when lower data protection characteristics are acceptable.

Note: A failure of two disks in a RAID 5 disk group will render any storage in the RAID group unavailable until the failed disks are replaced and the data is restored. This may cause data loss since the last backup of the storage pool.

6

Appropriate for the same types of applications as RAID 5, but in situations where providing increased fault tolerance is important. RAID 6 is similar to RAID 5, but it includes a double parity scheme that is distributed across different disks and thus offers extremely high fault-tolerance and disk-failure tolerance. RAID 6 also provides block-level striping with parity data distributed across all disks.

The storage pool will continue to operate even when up to two disks fail. Double parity provides time to rebuild the RAID group, even if another disk fails before the rebuild is complete.

  • RAID 6 (6+2): A minimum of eight disks can be allocated at a time to each pool. Because of the way parity bits are used to provide redundancy, the usable capacity for every eight-disk group is approximately six disks (75%).
  • RAID 6 (8+2): A minimum of 10 disks can be allocated at a time to each pool. Because of the way parity bits are used to provide redundancy, the usable capacity for every ten-disk group is approximately eight disks (80%).
  • RAID 6 (10+2): A minimum of 12 disks can be allocated at a time to each pool. Because of the way parity bits are used to provide redundancy, the usable capacity for every twelve-disk group is approximately ten disks (83%).
  • RAID 6 (14+2): A minimum of 16 disks can be allocated at a time to each pool. Because of the way parity bits are used to provide redundancy, the usable capacity for every sixteen-disk group is approximately fourteen disks (88%).

Note: A failure of three disks in a RAID 6 disk group will cause data loss and render any storage in the RAID group unavailable until the failed disks are replaced and the data is restored. This may cause data loss since the last backup of the storage pool.

VNXe3100/3150/3300:

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121 Posts

October 31st, 2014 04:00

This is the good one. Thanks.

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November 2nd, 2014 16:00

Hi RRAO,

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