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VNX 5300 mix SAS drive speeds in a storage pool
We have had a storage pool created recently by an EMC engineer with the following storage
100GB Flash x5 RAID5
300GB SAS 15k x5 RADI5
900GB SAS 10k x10 RAID5 (4+1x2)
We only see two tiers but the engineer assured us that the FAST system would sort out the data within the SAS tier properly. The different kinds of disk were added to the pool separately to ensure the RAID5 (4+1) groups were all of one type.
Is there a way of seeing what data is where and will it work properly?
We have block OE 05.32.000.5.008
Thanks for any help,
Charles
etaljic81
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August 23rd, 2012 05:00
So how does it know that they are different when it's in the same tier? I don't think that's accurate but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
RRR
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August 23rd, 2012 05:00
You should verify the amount of disks you have and compare that to the pool size. If the VNX pool states that the 2nd tier is for example 30TB, try figuring out where that number comes from. If that's because you have to add up the 15k and 10k drives you have conformation as well.
dynamox
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August 23rd, 2012 05:00
take a look at this discussion, specifically around FAST and rebalancing within the same tier
https://community.emc.com/thread/146946?start=15&tstart=0
you can see data distribution between tiers in Unisphere, don't think you can see 1g slice distribution within the same tier. I am sure support has tools to do that.
cmrayer
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August 23rd, 2012 05:00
Thanks, that explains how the new drives are used fairly but is not clear on whether the IO split takes into account the different IOPS for the 10k and the 15k...
etaljic81
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August 23rd, 2012 05:00
Yes it will. VNX will see the 10k and 15k drives as the same tier.
I don't recommend you place the 10k and 15k SAS drives in the same pool due to the fact that the VNX will place them in the same tier.
RRR
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August 23rd, 2012 05:00
I wonder if the VNX sees the 15k and 10k drives as the same tier.
etaljic81
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August 23rd, 2012 05:00
RRR, it sounds like that cmrayer already knows that it will be in the same tier. However, someone told him that the 10k and 15k drives are still going to be handeled differently. I've never heard that and don't see how that is possible.
cmrayer
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August 23rd, 2012 05:00
In Unisphere they are in the same tier but the engineer did suggest that it knows they are different and treats them so, but I wanted a confirmation.
cmrayer
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August 23rd, 2012 06:00
Unfortunately not...
etaljic81
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August 23rd, 2012 06:00
Correct, but move around the different tiers. Since the 146GB and 600GB drives will be in the same tier FAST will not be doing that. Now this might have changed in Flare 32, not sure.
etaljic81
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August 23rd, 2012 06:00
cmrayer, were you provided with any documentation by any chance?
dynamox
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August 23rd, 2012 06:00
But now FAST supposedly will keep moving slices around to keep performance equal.
etaljic81
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August 23rd, 2012 06:00
If you take a 15k 146GB drive and a 15k 600GB drive, the 146GB drive will outperform the 600GB drive even though both are 15k drives. I need to find documentation that backs this up; I read this somewhere but cannot find the doc. It basically talked about the arm not traveling as far as on the 146GB drive and thus the seek distance is reduced. Now how much is it really being reduced, who knows. Maybe that's why they have the capacity statement in there.
Message was edited by: Ernes Taljic. Replaced latency with seek distance
cmrayer
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August 23rd, 2012 06:00
Thanks Ernes for trying to find it, I guess we'll just wait!
dynamox
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August 23rd, 2012 06:00
it makes sense that you would not want to mix drives with different RPM but different capacity ? I don't think that would be valid anymore with code 32 that can rebalance within the same tier.