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February 10th, 2016 03:00

Alienware 17 R3 - BSOD Issues/Woes

3/29/2016 Edit: PLEASE NOTE THE DRIVER VERSION #'s listed below are in relation to my Alienware 17 R3 GTX 980M laptop. If you have a different model, than it is very possible that your DRIVER VERSION may differ from my model!!!!

I strongly recommend you install the latest versions of these two programs BEFORE YOU INSTALL DELL'S SUPPORTASSIST:

- Dell Foundation Services version 3.1.3300.0, A00
- Dell Digital Delivery version 3.1.1002.0, A00

Now install Dell's latest version of Support Assist by:

Dell's SupportAssist latest version (as of 3.25.2016) is 1.2.6793.01. You can download it directly from Dell @ : Dell Support Assist . YOU MUST UNINSTALL ANY/ALL PREVIOUS VERSIONS PRIOR TO DOWNLOADING THIS LATEST VERSION!!

Then make sure you've updated (note: your latest version may differ depending on your model!):

- BIOS to version 1.2.8
- Killer Ethernet E2400 Driver (DO NOT DL from Dell. DL directly from Killer's website for LATEST version stability and support to prevent BSOD conflict issues!!!!!!!!!!! CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!! Download here >>>>> Killer Home Page (you need to look up your specific product)
- Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Driver version 8.1.10603.192, A01
- Intel Management Engine Interface Driver version 11.0.0.1173, A02
- Intel Chipset Device Driver version 10.1.1.7, A00
- Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver version 14.6.1.1030, A01
- Intel HD Graphics Driver to version 20.19.15.4390, A07
- (optional if you have nVIDIA) Geforce GTX 960M/965M/970M/980M/690M/780M Driver version 10.18.13.5940, A03

Enjoy your stable system! Report it to us if it's not!!

UPDATE 3/27/2016 - THIS ISSUE APPEARS TO BE FIXED IN THE LATEST VERSION OF DELL SUPPORTASSIST. SEE MY REPLY POST BELOW FOR MORE INFO, OR UNINSTALL YOUR CURRENT VERSION AND DOWNLOAD THE LATEST VERSION STRAIGHT FROM DELL'S WEBSITE AND INSTALL! CHEERS!

It is evident that there are driver issues with this laptop, which are causing BSOD - predominately when attempting to use the Dell SupportAssist program. It is my opinion that Dell investigate and update the driver version for the following components/hardware/software:

1. Killer Ethernet E2400
2. Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework
3. Dell's SupportAssist program

BELOW - I'm reposting a reply post I gave to a Alienware Tech, "Rodrigo." I'm including it in this post because it summarizes everything I've shared to-date, and condenses the multiple posts that currently exist which outline my extensive (I have 50+hrs now invested in this). Much to my dismay, my OCD continues to be plagued by this, and I continue to research/find a resolution so I may enjoy this product.

"Alienware-Rodrigo,

My BSOD are isolated down to two scenarios:

1.Updating the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Driver to 8.1.10603.192 will NOT crash my Alienware 17 R3 on its own. However, once I attempt to run the SupportAssist program version 1.2.6745.47 will cause a BSOD within 1-20 seconds. Every time consistently.

2. Likewise, if I update the Killer Ethernet E2400 Drivers to 1.1.56.1236,A01 (with or without having updating the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Drivers), these too will cause BSOD issues to occur when attempting to start the Dell SupportAssist program version 1.2.6745.47.

Factors/Variables For Consideration:

- BIOS is current available version: 1.2.7, A5 (but these issues have been persistent throughout all previous BIOS versions as well)

- RAM: I happen to have 2 Alienware 17 R3 at the moment. I swapped the RAM just to see if perhaps it was an issue with said related hardware. The BSOD persisted. Furthermore, I've ran quick AND extended mem-tests. No issue found. All RAM working w/o error.

- F12 (ePSA) - I've ran the express (10 min) tests, and the extended (3-6hr) tests. Results: "All tests passed." No issues/error codes received. Note: The extended test has been ran more than once.

- OTHER HARDWARE TESTS: Utilizing Dell's SupportAssist, on a fresh Factory Reset/Re-install, the 10 minute default test, and the extended tests, all return a "All Systems/Hardware Passed" result. No issues/errors are reported from this diagnostics tool.

- It doesn't matter if you do a fresh factory install and let Windows 10 update itself completely first, or if you do a factory re-install, update Dell's drivers first, and then let Windows 10 update itself completely. Regardless of your approach, the above BSOD will occur each and every time under said version #s.

- It should be noted that, ultimately, there is an issue between one or more of the following components, which ultimately create a BSOD when loading Dell's SupportAssist program:

1. Killer Ethernet E2400
2. Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework
3. Dell's SupportAssist program

Please reference the following posts I've already made regarding this on-going BSOD issues:

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Upon the installation of the, "Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Driver, 8.1.10600.147, A00," a BSOD will occur EVERY time you attempt to use the DELL SUPPORTASSIST PROGRAM

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  • Syric

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    Posted February 10th, 2016 04:00

    Just recreated the BSOD again. Found this in my Windows Event logs:

    The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.  The bugcheck was: 0x00000019 (0x0000000000000020, 0xffffe000182a4140, 0xffffe000182a4200, 0x000000000c0c000a). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWSi\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 035ac710-7ea6-45e8-af08-e28ba844e6eb.

    I'll attach it to my OP above for review/reference.

  • Syric

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    Posted February 10th, 2016 11:00

    Here's some more - taken from Windows debug (I'm not experienced in using it, but I understand the basics and looked a guide to get this much for your Tech Support team to utilize. This is taken from the CRASH.dmp file created after I recreated the BSOD.



    Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 10.0.10586.567 AMD64
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\Aion\Desktop\MEMORY.DMP]
    Kernel Bitmap Dump File: Kernel address space is available, User address space may not be available.


    ************* Symbol Path validation summary **************
    Response                         Time (ms)     Location
    Deferred                                       srv*c:\Symbols*msdl.microsoft.com/.../symbols
    Symbol search path is: srv*c:\Symbols*msdl.microsoft.com/.../symbols
    Executable search path is:
    Windows 10 Kernel Version 10586 MP (8 procs) Free x64
    Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Personal
    Built by: 10586.63.amd64fre.th2_release.160104-1513
    Machine Name:
    Kernel base = 0xfffff802`3f40a000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff802`3f6e8c70
    Debug session time: Wed Feb 10 05:59:36.681 2016 (UTC - 5:00)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:06:04.479
    Loading Kernel Symbols
    ...............................................................
    ................................................................
    ........................................................
    Loading User Symbols
    PEB is paged out (Peb.Ldr = 00000043`8441e018).  Type ".hh dbgerr001" for details
    Loading unloaded module list
    ..........
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************

    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

    BugCheck 19, {20, ffffe000182a4140, ffffe000182a4200, c0c000a}

    Page 1300 not present in the dump file. Type ".hh dbgerr004" for details
    Page 1300 not present in the dump file. Type ".hh dbgerr004" for details
    Page 1300 not present in the dump file. Type ".hh dbgerr004" for details
    Probably caused by : disk.sys ( disk!DiskDeviceControl+8f )

    Followup:     MachineOwner
    ---------

    5: kd> !analyze -v
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************

    BAD_POOL_HEADER (19)
    The pool is already corrupt at the time of the current request.
    This may or may not be due to the caller.
    The internal pool links must be walked to figure out a possible cause of
    the problem, and then special pool applied to the suspect tags or the driver
    verifier to a suspect driver.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 0000000000000020, a pool block header size is corrupt.
    Arg2: ffffe000182a4140, The pool entry we were looking for within the page.
    Arg3: ffffe000182a4200, The next pool entry.
    Arg4: 000000000c0c000a, (reserved)

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------

    Page 1300 not present in the dump file. Type ".hh dbgerr004" for details
    Page 1300 not present in the dump file. Type ".hh dbgerr004" for details
    Page 1300 not present in the dump file. Type ".hh dbgerr004" for details

    DUMP_CLASS: 1

    DUMP_QUALIFIER: 401

    BUILD_VERSION_STRING:  10586.63.amd64fre.th2_release.160104-1513

    SYSTEM_MANUFACTURER:  Alienware

    SYSTEM_PRODUCT_NAME:  Alienware 17 R3

    SYSTEM_SKU:  Alienware 15 R2

    SYSTEM_VERSION:  1.2.7

    BIOS_VENDOR:  Alienware

    BIOS_VERSION:  1.2.7

    BIOS_DATE:  01/18/2016

    BASEBOARD_MANUFACTURER:  Alienware

    BASEBOARD_PRODUCT:  Alienware 17 R3

    BASEBOARD_VERSION:  A00

    DUMP_TYPE:  1

    BUGCHECK_P1: 20

    BUGCHECK_P2: ffffe000182a4140

    BUGCHECK_P3: ffffe000182a4200

    BUGCHECK_P4: c0c000a

    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x19_20

    POOL_ADDRESS:  ffffe000182a4140 Nonpaged pool

    CPU_COUNT: 8

    CPU_MHZ: a20

    CPU_VENDOR:  GenuineIntel

    CPU_FAMILY: 6

    CPU_MODEL: 5e

    CPU_STEPPING: 3

    CPU_MICROCODE: 6,5e,3,0 (F,M,S,R)  SIG: 74'00000000 (cache) 74'00000000 (init)

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT

    PROCESS_NAME:  pcdrrealtime.p

    CURRENT_IRQL:  1

    ANALYSIS_SESSION_HOST:  ECHELON

    ANALYSIS_SESSION_TIME:  02-10-2016 13:36:24.0992

    ANALYSIS_VERSION: 10.0.10586.567 amd64fre

    IRP_ADDRESS: ffffe00012acb128

    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff8023f63bde5 to fffff8023f54c770

    STACK_TEXT:  
    ffffd000`21936be8 fffff802`3f63bde5 : 00000000`00000019 00000000`00000020 ffffe000`182a4140 ffffe000`182a4200 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
    ffffd000`21936bf0 fffff802`3f460bd9 : ffffd001`c0df4010 00000000`00000000 ffffe000`116a7b10 fffff802`20206f49 : nt!ExFreePool+0x2c5
    ffffd000`21936cd0 fffff802`3f45f364 : ffffe000`12acb1a0 ffffe000`1765df78 ffffd001`c0df4000 ffffd000`305ef1e0 : nt!IopCompleteRequest+0x79
    ffffd000`21936dc0 fffff802`3f54f963 : 00000000`00000001 ffffe000`174b6960 00000000`00000000 ffffe000`12acb1a0 : nt!KiDeliverApc+0x134
    ffffd000`21936e50 fffff801`18083bb2 : 00000000`00000101 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000140 : nt!KiApcInterrupt+0xc3
    ffffd000`21936fe0 fffff801`1808346f : ffffd001`c16a9000 ffffe000`174b6a00 00000000`00000001 ffffe000`116a7b03 : storport!RaidStartIoPacket+0x3f2
    ffffd000`21937020 fffff801`1808303a : ffffe000`116a7b10 ffffe000`182a41e0 ffffe000`12abf060 ffffd001`00000096 : storport!RaUnitScsiIrp+0x3ef
    ffffd000`219370c0 fffff801`180d9391 : 00000000`00000103 ffffe000`116a7b10 ffffe000`174b6960 ffffd001`00000096 : storport!RaDriverScsiIrp+0x5a
    ffffd000`21937100 fffff801`180d8cc2 : ffffe000`17671af0 fffff801`180bcb0f 00000000`00000000 ffffe000`189fb5c0 : storport!PortPassThroughSendAsync+0x1b9
    ffffd000`219371b0 fffff801`180d6e0a : ffffe000`189fb5c0 00000000`00000000 00000000`0004d000 ffffe000`12acb1a0 : storport!PortPassThroughExSendAsync+0x72
    ffffd000`21937220 fffff801`18098b7c : ffffe000`189fb5c0 00000000`0004d004 ffffe000`12acb1a0 00000000`00000007 : storport!RaidAdapterPassThrough+0xa2
    ffffd000`21937270 fffff801`180844c5 : 00000000`00000000 ffffe000`17671af0 ffffe000`189fb5c0 fffff801`180c8000 : storport!RaidAdapterDeviceControlIrp+0x142e4
    ffffd000`219372f0 fffff801`180d7e76 : ffffe000`189fb5c0 00000000`0004d004 ffffe000`12acb1a0 ffffe000`12abf1b0 : storport!RaDriverDeviceControlIrp+0x95
    ffffd000`21937330 fffff801`180988d1 : 00000000`00000000 ffffe000`11512118 ffffe000`189fb5c0 ffffe000`12abf1b0 : storport!RaUnitScsiPassThroughIoctl+0xfa
    ffffd000`219373a0 fffff801`1808448a : ffffe000`18bd7620 fffff801`191642dc 00000000`00000000 fffff801`180c8000 : storport!RaUnitDeviceControlIrp+0x14401
    ffffd000`21937420 fffff801`19163a6d : 00000000`00000000 ffffd000`21937560 ffffe000`189fb5c0 00000000`00000000 : storport!RaDriverDeviceControlIrp+0x5a
    ffffd000`21937460 fffff801`191416cf : 00000000`00000000 fffff802`3f63ac33 00000000`0004d004 ffffe000`11b97a98 : CLASSPNP!ClassDeviceControl+0x52d
    ffffd000`219375d0 fffff801`19168a73 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`c0000910 ffffe000`12aba1b0 ffffe000`117f6c60 : disk!DiskDeviceControl+0x8f
    ffffd000`21937660 fffff801`17f34925 : ffffe000`189fb5c0 ffffe000`117f6c60 00000000`00000001 ffffe000`11b977c0 : CLASSPNP!ClassDeviceControlDispatch+0x53
    ffffd000`21937690 fffff801`17f22935 : ffffe000`189fb500 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffe000`189fb5c0 : partmgr!PmIoctlRedirect+0x4d
    ffffd000`21937700 fffff802`3f7f2de2 : ffffe000`11b60090 ffffd000`21937a80 ffffe000`11b60090 00000000`00000001 : partmgr!PmFilterDeviceControl+0x2a5
    ffffd000`21937750 fffff802`3f7f1c76 : e0001a02`0fb0fffb 00000000`001f0003 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!IopXxxControlFile+0x1162
    ffffd000`21937920 fffff802`3f556fa3 : 00000000`00000102 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!NtDeviceIoControlFile+0x56
    ffffd000`21937990 00007ffc`f51c4ec4 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x13
    00000043`84cff798 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x00007ffc`f51c4ec4


    STACK_COMMAND:  kb

    THREAD_SHA1_HASH_MOD_FUNC:  8bb53bfc2275551627e0bc786fb5077d78d70ab8

    THREAD_SHA1_HASH_MOD_FUNC_OFFSET:  07bc6681eef9d3ec9a0a315b293e557efc81cc97

    THREAD_SHA1_HASH_MOD:  101e2f17952a7b9c9c1077e56e35dd0afb4cbb5f

    FOLLOWUP_IP:
    disk!DiskDeviceControl+8f
    fffff801`191416cf 488b4c2450      mov     rcx,qword ptr [rsp+50h]

    FAULT_INSTR_CODE:  244c8b48

    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  11

    SYMBOL_NAME:  disk!DiskDeviceControl+8f

    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner

    MODULE_NAME: disk

    IMAGE_NAME:  disk.sys

    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  5632d16e

    BUCKET_ID_FUNC_OFFSET:  8f

    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  0x19_20_disk!DiskDeviceControl

    BUCKET_ID:  0x19_20_disk!DiskDeviceControl

    PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS:  0x19_20_disk!DiskDeviceControl

    TARGET_TIME:  2016-02-10T10:59:36.000Z

    OSBUILD:  10586

    OSSERVICEPACK:  0

    SERVICEPACK_NUMBER: 0

    OS_REVISION: 0

    SUITE_MASK:  784

    PRODUCT_TYPE:  1

    OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x64

    OSNAME:  Windows 10

    OSEDITION:  Windows 10 WinNt TerminalServer SingleUserTS Personal

    OS_LOCALE:  

    USER_LCID:  0

    OSBUILD_TIMESTAMP:  2016-01-04 20:28:56

    BUILDDATESTAMP_STR:  160104-1513

    BUILDLAB_STR:  th2_release

    BUILDOSVER_STR:  10.0.10586.63.amd64fre.th2_release.160104-1513

    ANALYSIS_SESSION_ELAPSED_TIME: 629

    ANALYSIS_SOURCE:  KM

    FAILURE_ID_HASH_STRING:  km:0x19_20_disk!diskdevicecontrol

    FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {d33c16fb-cc5f-e3bb-76ce-3c8db2d9afc0}

    Followup:     MachineOwner
    ---------

  • Syric

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    Posted February 15th, 2016 04:00

    Dell Moderators/Tech Support,


    After extensive testing the last two weeks, I have concluded this:

    - My hardware is not faulty/an issue

    - All windows updates have been installed / latest version of Windows 10 64-bit is stable

    - Overall, my system is stable. The only time it BSOD at this time is when utilizing your SupportAssist program, version 1.2.6745.47

    - It is important to note that I've isolated it down to SupportAssist. Once the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework drivers are touched/updated, the Dell SupportAssist program will create BSOD each and every time a user attempts to launch it. Switching the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework drivers back to their original version, after upgrading them, will not resolve the issue. Once the Intel drivers are touched, Dell SupportAssist is broken/unusable without doing a system Factory Restore, and starting over from scratch.

    - Please, fix the very program that is supposed to prevent, fix, and help a user troubleshoot issues! How is it the very program designed to help is causing BSOD issues (i.e. BAD_POOL_HEADER)

    - Speaking of which, BAD_POOL_HEADER is the error code that is created each time Dell SupportAssist is launched and BSOD.

    - I've ran all the tests, diagnosis, etc. to rule out hardware/other software issues. REFERENCE MY OTHER POSTS that provide you (Dell Tech Support Lvl 3) with all the info you should require to isolate, and resolve, the BSOD surrounding your Dell SupportAssist program version 1.2.6745.47

  • exklim32

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    Posted February 18th, 2016 23:00

    Alienware 15-R2, i7-6820HK, 980, 4K Touch, 16, 512 PCIe
    OC LVL 2
    BIOS 1.2.7 LATEST


    Problem: CPU down clocks after resuming from sleep S3. Need a Bios update.

    How to replicate the issue:
    Step 1: In bios, chose Overclock Level 1, 2, 3, or non (Disabled)
    Step 2: Start laptop, open task manager, see CPU clock. you will see full OC clock 4.10 Ghz
    Step 3: Put the laptop to sleep, wake up the laptop, see clock again stuck at 3.60 GHz

    If you're reading this, send it to the correct department.

  • johnesparks

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    Posted March 3rd, 2016 22:00

    For what it is worth, I am having exactly the same issues you are having.  Please post with any updates but so far Support Assist is completely a no-go.

    Thanks

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    Posted March 4th, 2016 08:00

    I have the same problem with SupportAssist on my Alienware 15 R2. This is a software issue and not a driver issue. I got errors on Intel RST driver most of the time. I have basically uninstalled Support assist for now. Even if it were to run a diagnostic on the background, the machine will crash. 

  • Matadon

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    Posted March 5th, 2016 17:00

    Thanks for posting this.  I received my Alienware 17 r3 about two weeks ago.  Since receiving it, I have experienced BSOD issues a half a dozen times or more per day.  I definitely have this issue, as well as probably more issues.  I see many different error and types of errors in the event log.

    I really want this laptop to work reliably, but I am about to send it back.  Stability issues like this are unacceptable, especially for a $3k laptop!

  • xoque

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    Posted March 6th, 2016 11:00

    I am also having the exact same crashes on my Alienware 15 R2.  Thanks for your investigation.

  • praveenvj

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    Posted March 6th, 2016 14:00

    I had a similar issue with my new Alienware. They seem to have a bad os image. I downloaded I do of Windows from my Microsoft account and reinstalled. Then it was stable except when running dell support connect software.

    Dell Support suggest to return the laptop for a replacement. Did that. The new machine has been stable after I uninstalled dell support software

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    Posted March 14th, 2016 10:00

    me 2 the same problem on 15 R2 since 2 month without any reason :-(