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Aurora R4 hard drive not found
Having problem with Aurora R4 ALX that I ordered around Nov 20 and received around Dec. 5. For me, It's a random problem and usually only happens in the morning on the first boot. Internal hard drive not found with options for f1 retry, f2 bios or f5 psa. Usually making a change in bios boot order (nothing in particular as far as change, just a change, save and reset) will allow it to find drive and boot into windows. Also, just doing a hard boot (power off), then power back on will result in drive being found and successful boot into windows. Restarts and boots during the day are successful and without problems. I think it only fails to find the drive on cold starts in the morning about 68F. And did find a thread about cold start issues on some computers, not necessarily R4. Have had three chats with tech support on phone. Original bios was A06 and had hoped flashing bios to A07 last week would solve it but it didn't. Today tech said it was hardware issue, mother board and hard drive. I have the 512gb ssd, i7-3820 @ 3.6ghz processor and 16gb ram. They offered to send a tech to replace the parts, (probably will be refurbished, they said), or they could send me a new computer. I was hoping it could be resolved by changing some settings and I referred them to some of the threads online but they say that's not the case and it sounded to them like a connection issue and that they were afraid it would get to the point of not booting at all. I opted for the new computer. Am not looking forward to boxing up the first one and sending it back when the new one arrives. Also am not looking forward to starting all over again setting up the new computer. Fortunately I do have everything backed up. With my luck I'm fully expecting the new computer will exhibit the same problems, especially since I've seen a few similar threads on the forums. If the second computer exhibits the same problems I guess it will be time to ask for a refund if that will be possible. They did say the warranty would reset with the new computer. Anybody else have similar issue with their Aurora R4 ALX chassis?
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Hello jmitro. I am having the exact same issue. My R4 ALX was ordered and received within a few days of your dates. My R4 has Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, a i7-3960x, 4.2 GHz for 1st core and 3.9 GHz for cores 2 thru 6, 32 GB DRAM, GTX690, Micron C400 7mm 512GB SSD and 1TB HD. Updated the BIOS from A06 to A07 but system will still present the same "no boot drive found... press F1, F2...F5 etc." It can occur from either a cold or warm boot and with 50% of all boots. I also saw your thread concerning the 512 gb SSD Micron C400 Real SCSI Disk device with the "new firmware" revision of 040H and dated 12/2012. I had downloaded this firmware updated a week ago, but have not installed it. My current SSD also has the 6/21/2006 firmware version 010G. Waiting to see if your thread gets answered. I contacted tech support and we went through the normal "bootrec.exe /mbr" etc., process will no improvements. Currently, If the above "no boot drive" occurs, I press F5, when the diagnostic starts, I press ESC and wait about 20 seconds until the mouse becomes active. Then I click on the Configuration tab and I usually see the Micron SSD. I exit the PSA and the R4 boot normally into Windows. Good luck with your new R4 and please keep us posted.
I think you are wise to have only downloaded it but not installed it. I hope somebody replies to the Micron thread in time. I would really like to be able to solve this with a firmware update and be able to call Dell to cancel the order on the computer replacement. Let me know If you do happen to install the firmware. thanks.
Hi Karen,
Thanks so much for the reply. I tried the update but was unsuccessful on two attempts. Followed instructions to the letter. But now I see in the troubleshooting info that the "update tool may not properly operate in PCs, notebooks or tablets with UEFI-based BIOS. Micron will make an update tool available separately, which will support firmware updates under unified extensible firmware interface (UEFI)." And of course, UEFI is what my BIOS is set to. So I guess we're back to square one until Micron provides another update specifically for UEFI. I might add that there was no apparent damage done by the update attempts. They just didn't work for me. Maybe n6yn will have better luck.
jim
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Posted December 19th, 2012 11:00
Hello jmitro & n6yn
You can try to update the firmware for the SSD Micron C400, I would recommend that you download the file that can be installed through windows and please check the PDF for recommendations before processing the installation.
Might add that I just burned an iso disk image and attempted to boot from that but ran into problems there also. Looked like it was going to work for a second. I did get to the Micron splash screen but it failed after that....... And with all the fiddling and restarts I've done now I notice in BIOS that the hard drive is not even listed in the boot order any more but what is listed for it is Windows Boot Manager. Only place I can see the hard drive in BIOS is under one of the tabs that shows Legacy.
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Posted December 21st, 2012 12:00
I had a similar problem with my system this month when it came. Same system as you are discussing and the first time I booted I got a prompt that said several different things. File name not found, insert system disc and something to do with select a boot drive.
All the input I got from both Alienware, (I love their tech support in Costa Rica) and people that know about these things pointed to no OS installed.
Also at that time a tech had come by to install a second optical drive as it was not done at the factory.
Later I turned the R4 on to write down the exact error messages, ( I can't find that paper now), and it went right into Windows.
I have no idea why it worked, nor is that my forte, but I was happy. It never happened again afterwards....very strange.
Hi Jim & Karen,
Have you run CPUID's HW Monitor on the R4? I was concerned about the +5V & +12V voltages it reported as shown below. I measured the +5 & +12 voltages, with a Fluke DVM and they are OK, at least at an open / extra Molex connector near the DVD Optical drive bay. I am not sure where HW Monitor is reading the voltages or if there is just an incorrect scaling factor being used. I bring this up because the Micron C400 512 GB SSD operates off the +5V bus and possibly "some" of these SSDs (like ours) could be voltage sensitive, and could present these "no boot drive found..." issues, especially during boot up if the main power supply has some voltage droop or overshoot a during turn on (cold boot or warm boot). I understand this is probably not the case but I have not put a scope on the +5V bus to monitor it during turn on and reboots.
BTW, when is your new system scheduled to arrive?
Regards,
Ed
HWMonitor v1.21.0 Driver v136
I measured the +5 & +12 voltages, with a Fluke DVM and they are OK, at least at an open / extra Molex connector near the DVD Optical drive bay. Thanks for doing that and posting. However, it needs to be under load. I think a digital power supply tester helps with that. Maybe while running a drive, take a reading from another connector that is obviously "in parallel" to it (down the wire a bit).
This is the 850w PS in an Aurora R-1 (x58 chipset).
http://en.community.dell.com/owners-club/alienware/f/3746/p/19482051/20256643.aspx#20256643
Those are some crazy numbers. So, it's just a glitch in HW-Monitor or MB? It's just reading what the motherboard thinks it's getting, right?
Do you know why these programs always show just one +12v value, even on PS like this that has Five 12v rails?
I've seen several like this thread. I've escalated it.
I'm not sure if this user has SSD boot, but this sounds similar:
http://en.community.dell.com/owners-club/alienware/f/3746/p/19482099/20256911.aspx#20256911
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New computer shows to be in production. Don't have a delivery date yet. But expect it will be a week or two...... I do have a question. When the new computer arrives, Is it better to do a restore from Windows system image backup or to do an Alienware Respawn restore from Alienware backup. I have done backups for the computer to my external using both methods. Which should I restore from? or does it matter?

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Posted December 18th, 2012 14:00
I probably should add that the tech service I received was top notch. All three techs that helped me with my issue were very friendly and helpful. Just wish the issue could have been resolved without a new computer being the solution. I've been a Dell customer for more than 10 years and don't foresee that changing. I also have some Macs in the house, some of which have had issues, and I'd have to rate the Dell service I received recently as being better.