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March 30th, 2005 19:00

Disabling Intel Extreme 2 integrated graphics

Tomorrow I’ll be going over my friend’s house to install a graphics card (PNY FX 5200) for his Dimension 3000. I just have one question. Just in case anything goes wrong with the card, say…it’s a dud or something like that. When I disabled the integrated graphics, will I still be able to boot into windows and actually ‘see’ everything?

What I mean by this is, I’ve worked on emachines (not to pick on any names here) before and after disabling the integrated graphics that was pretty much it. Unless you’ve memorized how to format the hard drive using the restore discs, again with a blank screen,  you’re pretty much a dead man.

Just wondering if that’ll be the case here?

Thanks guys.

  • 6r1mguy

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    Posted March 30th, 2005 23:00

    in my 2400, i just uninstalled the intel eXtreme graphics (eXtreme my A**), didnt do the whole complex task of disabling it.
    but one time for some reason i uninstalled my card's drivers, i plugged it into the onboard thinking i was doomed but it worked (the onboard), a guy told me whenever you plug your monitor into the onboard slot, it reinstalls the drivers but that may not work if you completely disable it.

    just do what i did, its more failsafe.....wait, are there preformance disadvantages, becase if there are...
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    Posted March 31st, 2005 00:00

    The only performance disadvantages I know of is that since it's not disabled it's still sharing rescources. That's what I heard. He's not really a hardcore gamer so I'm not going to worry about it.

    You're right about it being more failsafe, so I think I'll just leave it enabled and just make sure I set the BIOS to use the PCI card primarily.

    Thanks for the reply!

  • GuitarCanuck

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    Posted March 31st, 2005 13:00

    Hmmm, I have read that there could be problems/conflicts if you don't Disable the integrated graphics after installing a video card.  I have also (often) read that there could be problems if you Uninstall the integrated driver, instead of the recommended method of Disabling it.
    Please let us know how it goes for you, would be interesting to know!
     
    One thing I can add is:   I remember after I Disabled the integrated graphics (during installation of my card), I WAS still able to see video, however I believe it looked very crude and low-resolution (with huge icons, etc), almost like a very "bare-bones" video driver was being used as a default... I doubt that "extreme graphics" would be able to be viewed, however basic video display was still possible...
     
    I would like to hear a knowledgeable person explain that phenomena here... IS there a basic "default" driver that kicks in as soon as the integrated graphics is disabled?  This question comes up often...
     
    Good luck, and let us know how it goes?
    Kevin
     
  • PixelOp

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    Posted March 31st, 2005 23:00

    Yeah, my Compaq which uses SiS integrated graphics does the same thing. After I disable it, I get a very bare bones VGA driver.
     
    I'll be sure to let you guys know how it goes!
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    Posted April 2nd, 2005 01:00

    Hey guys,
     
    Just to let you in. I disabled the integrated graphics and happilly, I was able to restart and still get a picture. Obviously the 'barebones' VGA driver kicked in, but it's better than being totally pictureless.
     
    So yeah.
     
    Thanks for the help guys!
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    Posted April 3rd, 2005 01:00

    Good to know, thanks for the follow up.

    Kevin

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    Posted April 10th, 2005 15:00

    Hi all:

    I have a Dimension 2400 (3 PCI, no AGP, Celeron)
    I just bought Power Color ATI 9200SE 128MB PCI video card.
    I followed Chris' instruction to the puntuation
    Plug the screen cable into the PCI card >>> No boot, nothing, black screen.
    Changed the PCI slot >> same result.
    Plug the screen cable back to the AGP port: boot again

    I just bought the machine at the last Dell promotion.
    Is this Dimension 2400 crippled wrt PCI graphic path.

    I did call Dell support and was told, unfortunately, this machine can not use PCI graphic card.

    I see that some of you also have the Dimension 2400 yet bale to use PCI video.

    Am I being misinformed?

    Could you please help. Should I return the card?


    Cheers,
    xosbs
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    Posted April 11th, 2005 12:00

    Sorry about your luck so far...  To clear one thing up:  YES, the Dimension 2400 is absolutely able to use PCI graphics cards instead of integrated graphics, this is very common.  There are 3 PCI slots available to do this, and it baffles me why the so-called "expert" Dell support guy on the phone could not tell you this, yet it IS very common that they are wrong.  Perhaps they were confused that you were asking about PCI Express (which is not compatible) rather than regular PCI graphics?

    Assuming you did the steps like Disabling the Intel integrated graphics controller in Device Manager, and setting the BIOS integrated video setting to Auto, I don't know what could be wrong.

    I'm not an expert, I am just a Dimension 2400 user who has successfully installed 2 different PCI cards in my computer (a GeForce FX5200 and a GeForce FX5500).  The one thing I can tell you is that on these forums there have been numerous reports of problems with ATI Radeon PCI cards sometimes not being compatible with Dimensions, and I've also read that PowerColor may not be the best choice of brands (I'm only saying what I've read... I'm sure there have been some successes with those as well).  But, it appears that Dimension computers have a MUCH better track record with the GeForce PCI cards than with the Radeons... I don't know why... Dimension computers seem to be very "finicky" with PCI card compatibility sometimes... 

    If you have no luck, my recommendation would be, if possible, to RETURN the Radeon 9200SE to the store, and exchange it for a GeForce PCI card (FX5200 is common, FX5500 is better).  I guarantee you that you will have a MUCH better chance of success with a GeForce card. 

    Good luck,

    Kevin