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Rob P-D830
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September 6th, 2007 22:00
D830 Memory
So I ordered my D830 with 2GB of memory, but when I open the memory bay I see only a spot for one stick and it's a 1GB model.
Where is the other memory stick on the D830? Why did Dell choose to hide it?
Please advise.
Rob
PS - really enjoy the build quality on this laptop.
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Rob P-D830
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Posted September 7th, 2007 13:00
Thanks for the info. I wonder why dell would make it so diifficult to find the second piece?Side questionIs it ok to run 1GB and 2GB sticks to total 3GB of DDR2 Ram?- You can have 3 GB of memory, but by having unmatched pairs you won't have dual channel memory, which means a 10-15% performance hit. Much good info available here:
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Posted September 7th, 2007 14:00
Ok so if I wanted to pull the order 2gb stick out of an inspiron 1520 is that ram under the keyboard too?Rob P-D830
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Posted September 7th, 2007 15:00
Thanks everyone.So I moved the 4GB DDR2 from the 1520 to the D830. Everything appears to work, but Windows Xp only sees that I have 3.5 GB of ram. I have a 256mb Nvida graphics card so I know thats not stealing the ram.Any thoughts?BTW I did notice a slight improvement upon booting with 'matched' ram in the computer.DELL-Donald K
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Posted September 7th, 2007 15:00
CorrectAs to why some RAM is under the keyboard, I suspect it has to do with available space in the chassis due to location of other components.These are not the 1st models with RAM under the keyboard.
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Posted September 7th, 2007 16:00
What you are seeing is normal for a 32-bit operating system. With 32-bit xp or vista with 4Gb of memory installed only 3-3.5 is usually visible. http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?c=us&cs=19&dl=false&l=en&s=dhs&docid=BF4C8393BFC74A83B9EC318630B9CE7D&doclang=enRob P-D830
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Posted September 7th, 2007 16:00
Interesting. Does that mean it will only use 3.5 gb of the 4gb installed? Or is it that it's only displaying 3.5 but will use the full 4gb?I'm slightly confused as to why this would be.DELL-Donald K
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Posted September 7th, 2007 17:00
500 MB is reserved for IO Processes of t5he PCI-E bus. THe RAM is used, it is just not reported as "Available"
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@dageezerus wrote:
500 MB is reserved for IO Processes of t5he PCI-E bus. THe RAM is used, it is just not reported as "Available"
I don't think that is right. The address space of that 500mb is reserved for ports and things, I don't think it is actually using the memory. In other words, for the computer to talk to any hardware (ports or memory) it needs an address. "32 bit" means there is 4gb worth of addresses. Your computer is using the first 500mb of addresses to point to non-memory hardware, so that only leaves 3.5gb of addresses left to access memory. So the extra 500mb of memory is not accessible by the computer.
Otherwise, if the hardware actually needed the 500mb of memory to share or give to it's ports, you would always see that drop in memory (when you put in 2gb, you would only have access to 1.5gb). Of course, I these are rough numbers and this is unconfirmed information, it's just how I think of the memory issues with 32-bit vs 64-bit OS's. When you move to a 64-bit OS, there is 64 bits of addresses available (2 to the power of 64 instead of 2 to the power of 32).
32 bit = 4,294,967,296 (4 gb)
64 bit = 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 (18,446,744 gb :smileyhappy:)

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Posted September 7th, 2007 13:00
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