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February 8th, 2023 06:00

difference between port-channel and port-group

Hello everyone

Can someone please explain the difference between port-channel and port-group?

I understand that port-channel is when you want to aggregate links and have more bandwidth but I find it difficult to understand what port-group is/does. 

I inherited a S4148F-ON (OS10). I can see port range 1/1/41-42, are members of port-channel 41.

dell# show port-channel summary | grep 41

41   port-'channel41'   (D)     Eth      DYNAMIC   1/1/41(D) 1/1/42(D)  

However, I do not see a port-group associated with port-channel 41.  

dell# show port-group 

 Port-group            Mode           Ports     FEM

port-group1/1/1       Eth 10g-4x     1  2  3  4     -  

port-group1/1/2       Eth 10g-4x     5  6  7  8     -  

If ports 1-2-3-4 are members of 'port-group1/1/1', shouldn't there be a group name associated with ports 1/1/41-42 ??

Thank you for your help.

 

 

  • DELL-Chris H

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    Posted February 8th, 2023 12:00

    Igano,

     

    To clarify, a port channel is a virtual interface between two devices, whereas a port group is a collection of ethernet ports on a single switch. 

    Now in regards to the configuration, you should be able to see the association if you use the show interface status command on the interface in question.

     

    Let me know if this helps.

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  • igano

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    Posted February 9th, 2023 01:00

    Hello Chris

    dell# show interface ethernet 1/1/41

    Ethernet 1/1/41 is up, line protocol is down
    Port is part of Port-channel 41
    Hardware is Eth, address is 68:4f:63:58:20:e0
    Pluggable media not present

    Interface index is 54
    Internet address is not set
    Mode of IPv4 Address Assignment: not set
    Interface IPv6 oper status: Disabled
    MTU 9216 bytes, IP MTU 9184 bytes
    LineSpeed 0, Auto-Negotiation off
    Flowcontrol rx on tx off
    ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout: 60
    Queuing strategy: fifo

    I can see the port 41 being part of a channel 41 but is not part of any port-group. When will someone create a port-group?

    My understanding is that, if you want to create an aggregated link, you first create a channel (virtual interface) then you create a port-group where you add the ports you want to aggregate and finally you add that port-group to the channel. Is my thinking correct? 

    Thank you  

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    Posted February 9th, 2023 02:00

    Is the command, for example,  port-group 1/1/1  only used for changing the speed modes of a group of ports? I'm starting to understand that port-channel and port-group are unrelated in the sense that you don't need to create a port-group when you want to aggregate links (port-channel), unless you want all the aggregated links to use a different speed mode than the default one. 

     

     

  • DELL-Erman O

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    Posted February 9th, 2023 04:00

    Hi, I'm also understanding the same as you. I think the port-group command is not only used to change the speed modes of a port group. When you create a port group, multiple physical interfaces are grouped into a single virtual interface. Instead of configuring individually, this virtual interface can be used to simplify network configuration and management. I don't think it would be necessary to create a port group to bundle connections using a port channel. port-channel interface is created using the port-channel command, and the physical interfaces are added to the port-channel.

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    Posted February 9th, 2023 04:00

    Thank you Erman. Are the port-groups below created manually or are there by default?

    System Type: S4148U-ON

    dell# show port-group

    Port-group           Mode             Ports         FEM


    port-group1/1/1  Eth   10g-4x 1 2 3 4 -

    port-group1/1/2 Eth 10g-4x 5 6 7 8 -

    port-group1/1/3 Eth 10g-4x 9 10 11 12 -

    port-group1/1/4 Eth 10g-4x 13 14 15 16 -

    port-group1/1/5 Eth 10g-4x 17 18 19 20 -

    port-group1/1/6 Eth 10g-4x 21 22 23 24 -

    port-group1/1/7 Eth 100g-1x 25 -

    port-group1/1/8 Eth 100g-1x 26 -

    port-group1/1/9 Eth 100g-1x 29 -

    port-group1/1/10 Eth 100g-1x 30 -

     

    I'm starting to think these groups are fixed and can not be manually, created. Because when I do:

    dell(config)# port-group
    Node/Slot/PortGroup(1-10) Port-group id

    dell(config)# port-group 1/1/1
    dell(conf-pg-1/1/1)#
    end          Exit to the exec Mode
    exit          Exit from current mode
    mode      Port-group mode
    no           Negate a command or set its defaults
    show     Show configuration

    I do not see an option to create a new group.

     

     

  • DELL-Marco B

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    Posted February 9th, 2023 06:00

    Hello,

    yes port groups are fixed by default, as for example in this model

    Dell EMC SmartFabric OS10 User Guide Release 10.5.0 | Dell Costa Rica

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