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December 24th, 2019 11:00

TPM Update in Optiflex 7010

I picked up this old PC at a garage sale just to play around with it I updated the BIOS and OS, etc.. but was wondering if there was a way to update the TPM version from 1.2 to 2.0?  I know there is on some machines but not sure about this one.

 

Thanks

  • Tesla1856

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    Posted December 24th, 2019 16:00


    @AZBigdog wrote:

    if there was a way to update the TPM version from 1.2 to 2.0? 

     


    First, this machine is very old. Not sure I would be entrusting it to anything important enough for TPM use.

    I doubt it. Only way would be with BIOS updates.

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  • AZBigdog

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    Posted December 25th, 2019 13:00

    Oh I know it is ancient, it was only like $20 at a garage sale so figured it would be just something to play around with. I was just curious if there was a way to update the TPM specs on it. There was a BIOS update but that didn't address it.

  • speedstep

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    Posted December 25th, 2019 17:00

    Its not even ACPI 2.0 nor secure boot UEFI so no. This is NEVER an option.

    These models will run 32 bit XP so they are legacy and end of life.

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    Posted June 25th, 2021 09:00

    I am currently running Windows 10 64-Bit just fine on the machine.

  • pepr37

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    Posted July 6th, 2021 06:00

    I too have a Optiplex 7010 computer, and I have Windows ten Pro running just fine even though Microsoft 

    said this computer wouldn't  run Win. 10. I see in the bios that TPM is not enabled and wondered if I enabled it

    would that have any effect as to weather I could run Win. eleven .What are your thoughts about that?

     

  • speedstep

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    Posted July 6th, 2021 08:00

    1.2 is sufficient.

    Microsoft has changed its tune due to complaints from government contracts about requiring newer hardware.

    New minimum requirements for windows 11

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  • bradthetechnut

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    Posted July 6th, 2021 14:00

    I too, have Win10 Pro on a 7010.  It does too have UEFI Secure Boot.

  • glnzglnz

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    Posted August 15th, 2021 11:00

    Good thread here! 

    I also have an Optiplex 7010 (Mini-Tower) and have been dual-booting Win 7 Pro 64-bit and Win 10 Pro 64-bit (originally Win 8.1 Pro 64-bit) for at least five years now. My Win 10 is currently v 21H1.

    I have 16GB of RAM and three HDDs.  No SSDs yet.  My CPU is Intel Core i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz (an Ivy Bridge CPU). 
    I am booting UEFI but NOT Secure Boot.  Also, as this is a home machine, I do NOT have to type a password when I log on.

    So - what exactly must I change to make Win 11 work on this machine? 

    Thanks.  Hey speedstep - reduce the caffeine, man.

  • Philip_Yip

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    Posted September 6th, 2021 15:00

    The OptiPlex 7010 is one of the first Dell systems to have a UEFI BIOS with Secure Boot. However it was an early implementation of Secure Boot and needs the latest BIOS Update for it to work reliably.

    That being said, there was a major GRUB2 Security Exploit "Hold in the Boot" in 2020 and the last BIOS Update for this model is in 2018. Therefore it is likely that Microsoft may reject this outdated "Insecure" version of "Secure Boot".

    The system has a TPM but its likely to be an older implementation 1.2 and not Enabled by default.

    You should be able to enable the older versions of these technologies in the UEFI BIOS setup once the BIOS is updated.

    The system will lack the:

    • Processor Generation (3rd vs 8th)
    • TPM 2.0 (likely 1.2)
    • UEFI + Secure Boot (Older version of Secure Boot)

    Microsoft have re-released the Windows 11 PC Health Check App for Windows Insiders:

    https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckInsiders 

    However it does not distinguish between so called Yellow (systems which lack the processor generation and TPM 2.0) and Red systems.

    The Windows 11 Build 22000 Beta Channel Installation ISO performs an additional PC Check after the Product Key screen and before the Drive Options Screen. This blocks Red Systems (e.g. the OptiPlex 790 below which does not have Secure Boot) but does not show up on Yellow or Green Systems.

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    The Windows 11 Insider Preview ISO is available here:

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-insider/isos 

    Note the install.wim in the ISO exceeds 4.0 GB which means you need to make a USB with a FAT32 Boot Partition and an NTFS Install Partition in order to pass Secure Boot and install respectively. If you are nto ready to install Windows 11 Insider Preview just yet and have a spare USB, you can test it up until the Drive options screen (which will leave your current installation untouched) and give a better indication whether or not it is classified as a Yellow system or a Red system.

    For more details on making the Bootable USB see my forum post here:

    https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-11/Windows-11-System-Requirements-Update/m-p/8028404 

  • glnzglnz

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    Posted September 17th, 2021 14:00

    Dr. Yip - Thanks for detailed post.

    Could you provide some links that will show me me how -- on my existing Optiplex 7010 described above -- I can install and try Win 11 on a new Hyper-V virtual machine.  I've never tried any virtual machine, but it would be fun to learn.