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November 26th, 2005 19:00

Slow Startup

Hello,

I've received some really fantastic help from all of you and have rid my machine of most, if not all, pesky viruses and such.

Yet, the computer is still fairly slow starting up and opening up programs. Is there something that can be done to rectify this?

Thanks so much! Truly, all of your help has been a godsend.

Diane
  • krobo

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    Posted November 27th, 2005 03:00

    just disk defragmenter or disk clean up
  • deechan

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    Posted November 27th, 2005 03:00

    I've tried those options . . . Anything else? (Only other reason why I think it might be some kind of spyware/virus is because streaming videos sometimes come to a halt and programs don't start up all too quickly.)

    Thanks,
    Diane
  • ky331

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    Posted November 27th, 2005 11:00

    are you still working on the machine where you just received help in the HiJackThis forum?  if so, Steve (who helped you there) should be able to locate and remove any viruses, if that's what the problem is.    But if you're talking about a different machine, you should submit an HJT log for it, starting a new thread of its own, also in the HJT forum.

    if the problem is not viral, but rather, that the machine is booting up slowly due to an abundance of tasks automatically loading at startup [as indicated in the O4 section of your HJT log], you can try "investigating" these processes, one by one, at a site such as:

    http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

    where you can type-in the process name, and search for information about it.  for example, if you were to type in  SunJavaUpdateSchedyou would see that [with associated command/filename jusched.exe] this startup program is rated "N" [= NOT required].   At present, every time you boot up (and go online), this program  "Checks with Sun's Java updates site to see if newer Java versions are available".   Is this something you want to do every time you boot up?   Especially when you can simply "Visit http://java.sun.com or just run the Java Plug-In Control Panel" any time you choose to?

    P.S.  1) As a matter of fact, despite this "check", you're running an old version of java j2re1.4.2_06 ... the current version is 1.5.0_05

    P.S. 2) This particular example also shows you the care you have to take in analyzing/interpreting startup entries.   Because while SunJavaUpdateSched  with associated command/filename jusched.exe is at least a "legitimate" program, the startup list further indicates that, had the associated command/filename for this entry been scvhost.exe or javamx.exe , then it would have indicated a virus (rating "X") which needed to be removed.

    it may take a lot of work/research on you part, but the result may be worth it.

    by the way, another good reference for these would be

    http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

    [here, click on the first letter of the task/program, and search the list to find it]

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    Posted November 29th, 2005 00:00

    Hi, Ky~

    This is actually my home machine, not my parents' whose I was trying to fix this past weekend.

    Thanks for the tips. I'll see what I can figure out. =)

    Diane
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    Posted December 1st, 2005 18:00

    Go to Msconfig and click selective   startup
  • ky331

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    Posted December 1st, 2005 18:00

    Cmr:
     
    using MSCONFIG, just like using HiJackThis, or WinPatrol (or any other "startup manage" of your choice), still requires that the person be well-informed enough to properly decide which of the startup programs are essential, which are optional (but helpful), which are wasteful, and which are actually malware.   I believe that was the thrust of the initial question.
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    Posted December 1st, 2005 22:00

     
    hopefully, one of the forum experts there will be in a position to offer you suggestions/help.
     
    basically, if I were to take this on (which i'm really not in a position to do), i'd access the websites i listed for you above, type-in the programs one by one, and see what results/explanations i found.   those that are listed as required or strongly recommended, i'd keep.   those listed as "resource hogs", or malware, or viruses, i'd remove.
     
    but then there's the middle category... of programs which are neither required, nor malware.... those which each user has to decide for him/herself, whether to automatically run on startup or not.
     
    i'll give you an example.  typically, the first thing i do every day is some financial record-keeping and bill-paying.  i use Microsoft money.  since i use this on such a regular basis, i actually have the Money "reminder" boot up on start up... because i find it convenient.   but that's just my personal choice --- i wouldn't suggest anyone else to the same.   because you can simply click on the Money icon when you want to run the program.
  • deechan

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    Posted December 1st, 2005 22:00

    Thanks, KY. Yes, I was not sure what could be done away with and what could not. I haven't had much time to tackle the issue, but any help/heads up would be much appreciated.

    =)
    Diane
  • deechan

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    Posted February 12th, 2006 23:00

    Hi, KY~

    So, I *finally* had the time to check all of the 04 listings. There were two that the website had multiple answers for and I was wondering if you could help me decipher them. It'd list them as Y and X. They were
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    and
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon initialize

    Any insights?


    Thanks again!
    Diane
  • ky331

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    Posted February 13th, 2006 01:00

    based on the information at     http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php,
    I would say that:
     
     
     
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    is a Y=Yes, keep it!  
     
    (Part of Norton AntiVirus.  Auto-protect and E-mail check will not function without this)
     
    **************************************
     
     
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon initialize
    seems to be an N=Not required
     
    (System Tray icon used to change display settings, change the clock rate and memory speed for nVidia based graphics cards. This is unnecessary since you can easily configure these settings the way you want them in the Display Properties and not have to mess with them again. Also disable the "NVIDIA Driver Helper Service" if enabled as it can cause this entry to be re-enabled on re-boot (note that this service can also cause extreme shutdown delays if enabled)
     
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    I don't see either one as being an "X"...
     
    keep in mind you have to match up both the StartUp NAME in brackets [NvCplDaemon] as well as the corresponding command     RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon initialize     in order to draw a conclusion from the table.  
     
    for example, had the startup NAME [NvCplDaemon] been associated with the command msmsgrs.exe , then it would have been an "X"
     
    likewise, had the startup NAME [NvCplDaemon] been associated with the command
    rundll32.exe NvCpl.dll, NvStartup , then it would have been an "U"
     
    Hope this clarifies things a bit...