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November 23rd, 2003 19:00

Floppy Disk Drive

Hello,

I have a Dell 4500 with a standard floppy disk drive that isn't formatting 3.5 in. DS HD Memorex 1.44 MB disks on the first pass, but will if I persist to the 5th or 6th pass.  I have been told that most floppy drives over the past 3 years have been 3-mode drives (320, 720 and 1.44) but only 1.44 can be formatted under XP and that 3-mode drives require special driver support and that support comes from Dell.

Question is:  I don't know how to determine if I have a 3-mode drive or not.  My Item # is 340-1927 and my Part # is 68KYG for the drive.  If I have a 3-mode drive, can anyone here direct me to the proper download of the special driver.

If anyone else is having problems formatting 3.5in. floppies, please let me know how you resolved the problem.

If you are not having problems, but know how to format these without a hitch, please help.

Floppies I use are described above and have never been used before.  It took the whole box to get 2 that Partition Magic needed to make recovery disks.  The rest PM said that they were not formatted.  The box says that they are PC formatted and tested to work.  Now I need to recreate the PM recovery disks and your help is needed.

Thanks in advance, John

  • Mary G

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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 19:00

    There is no need to make floppies for recovery. The Windows XP cd and the PM cd are both bootable. From PM help:

    Is there a way to use a bootable CD as the PartitionMagic rescue disk?

    There is no need to make a bootable PartitionMagic CD. The PartitionMagic 8.0 program CD is already bootable and allows you to run PartitionMagic from it.  

    Make sure you are using PM 8 which is needed for XP.

  • msgale

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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 19:00

    Bull, first of all there has not been a 320KByte drive since before the demise of the 5 1/4 floppy disk, probly ended at DOS 2.0.  Basically all current disks are 3 1/2 inch 1.44 MBytes.  I have been able to format them on a 3 1/2 year old Inspiron 5000, a 2 1/2 year old PWS 530 and a six month old PE 1600SC server,  with no problems.  The first two PCs are running Wondows XP Pro and the third is running Windows 2003 server.  All the machines use retail copies of their respective versions of the OS.  I loaded no special drivers.  The three Dell Optiplex SX270 about a year old, machines I am using at school for my Networking class were loaded by me with retail version of the OS no special drivers were required.  Try some different disks or try your disks on a different machine.  P.S. As far as I know, and I go way back, the only 320KBytes drive was a 5 1/2 drive, an it was actually a two sided 160KByte disk 
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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 20:00

    This is bull "I have been told that most floppy drives over the past 3 years have been 3-mode drives (320, 720 and 1.44) but only 1.44 can be formatted under XP and that 3-mode drives require special driver support and that support comes from Dell", not your problem.  What I was trying to explain was there is no 320KByte floppy, and I was further trying to point out your problem is elsewhare, What form? where?

    Message Edited by msgale on 11-23-2003 04:31 PM

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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 20:00

    Did this Floppy box actually say the Floppy's were PC Formated or MS-DOS Formated as if MS-DOS Formated they  need to be Formated using XP.

    Message Edited by gryjhnhpe on 11-24-2003 09:16 AM

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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 20:00

    msgale,

    Good that everything is working out right for you!  However, everything is not working out right here and you didn't address my problem:  3-mode and 5-6 passes.

    Personally, I don't think that "Bull" is the proper way to start out a reply to a problem. 

    From another forum, I know that others are having a similar problem to mine and a respected member brought up the 3-mode drive as a possible problem that may have to be solved by the OEM.  That is why I am here.

    Mary, I will research your answer and I thank you.  What concerns me about that is that when I ran PM 8.0 it asked me to insert a 3.5 in. floppy to make 2 recovery disks.  Now I have the 8.01 CD and when I install that I'm anticipating that it will ask me to do the same.

    Any other thoughts?  Thanks.

    John

     

  • Rusher

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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 20:00

    Gary,

    The box says PC Formatted and the disk itself says IBM Formatted.

    Thanks for your reply.

    John

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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 20:00

    jbxcpa, I just formatted some floppies on a Dimension 4500 that I give support to and the floppies formatted. Try this-put a floppy in the drive. Go to Windows Explorer and high light this drive and click on Format. On my Dimension that I am using right now it reads: Capacity: 3.5'', 1.44MB, 512bytes/sector,File Sys: FAT, Allocation unit size: Default Allocation Size, Format Options-you should see several choices. Put a tick in Quick Format.
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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 21:00

    You might find a re-start of Windows fixes the problem.
    Just Logoff then Logon to re-start Windows.
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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 21:00

    aps@sun, that is exactly what I do and what I see, but when I check Quick Format (all windows closed) and then continue, I wind up with the following message: "Windows cannot format this drive.  Quit any disk utilities or other programs that are using this drive and make sure that no window is displaying the contents of the drive.  Then try again".  Very frustrating, but after 5-6 tries it formats the disk.  I had 8 disks that I did the same way.  40-50 passes?  Shouldn't be.

    John

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    Posted November 23rd, 2003 21:00

    jbxcpa,

    Open the computer case and disconnect then reconnect the ribbon cable leading to the floppy drive. Try the format again. If it doesn't work the first time there is a good possibility that you have a defective floppy drive.