Ok. picking up the remaining issues... re, Internet Options hanging up when trying to update the tabs/ options in this dialogue box, e.g., setting the home page, deleting the history files, checking/unchecking boxes in the advanced tab, and changing the security levels. Those problems are still occurring as of this evening.
Please refer to the following link in this forum for add'l information.
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djscas on 02-25-2007 02:51 PM
Regarding your last note on the Norton problems... I haven't had any notes or error messages that the program is not functioning as it should. In your last post for the above message, you indicated that the last log showed that some of the Norton components were missing. I ran Norton Autofix and it did not show any problems.
Please advise so I can look into those areas.
Thanks, again for your time and support. Will await your next posting.
OK, here we go...the most probable cause(s) of the interference with IE 6 & 7 would have to be a common denominator present while each browser is installed and designated as primary.
These common denominators are:
Your Windows Defender software Your Symantec "nprotect" feature ...and the following entry that is present in all of your hjt logs:
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
Of those, the more likely candidate is the "O6" entry that appears in your hjt log. That entry indicates to me that you either have, or have had the application "Spybot Search and Destroy" (or some similar software) installed and have employed the use of it's
Administrative Lock Down feature. Be advised...that's actually a good thing, but will cause heartburn to users who aren't aware of the down side. That is, these features will prevent the current user (or all users depending on it's configuration settings) from making any changes to certain system settings. IE start page of course is one of those.
So...to troubleshoot this issue properly, let's tackle those suspects one at a time. After each attempt to resolve this issue, we will go back to the IE options and try the "Delete All" function and try changing the start page to see if the issue remains. If so, then we abandon that one and go on to the next...see?
So...for your first step, open your on board Spybot Search and Destroy, click the
Mode option from the menu at the top and select "advanced" then answer "Yes". You'll see three more options available to you now at the bottom in that left side pane. Click the
Tools link from those options. Now, from that drop down list of options, click the "IE tweaks" link. Are there any checks in those boxes in the right pane window? If so, click to remove them, then click "Apply" and close the application. Try your "Delete all" and changing the IE start page now to see if that resolves the issue.
The missing symantec component (Symantec Service Framework) is represented by all of these entries from your last hjt log:
O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h ccCommon (file missing)
All three actually represent only one component but, that component is serving these three functions...or it's supposed to. The log indicates that the service element "ccSvcHst.exe" is missing...although, with hjt, the "O23" entries are not always relied upon as having accurate information regarding this "file missing" message. Each time we see this, the issue must be thoroughly researched. In this case, the alternative message from hjt "no file" is what's important here.
If it were to have said "no file" instead of "file missing" I would recommend reinstalling the software again. But in this case, the message "file missing" may simply imply that the service is present, but just not running. You can check this in your Services panel.
To do this, Right-Click on
My Computer and select "Manage". When the "Computer Management" console opens, click "Services and Applications" from the left pane at the bottom. Now Double-Click "Services" in the right pane. Click the "Standard" tab at the bottom to move the text over so you can read it better. Now scroll down and locate the following Service Names
(ccEvtMgr) ccSetMgr CLTNetCnService
For each one located, double click on it to open it's properties box. Now, click the
Startup type drop down arrow and select
Automatic. Under "Service status" click the
Start button. Apply it, OK it, and close the properties box. Do this for each of those services listed above. When finished, close the Computer Management Console and reboot to properly record the changes made to the disk.
And by the way, getting back to the "Shkdobw.exe" issue, there is one theory that perhaps the findit scan presented the file that way based upon the user log on. Can you advise us as to whether or not the initials "Sh" appear anywhere in your user account that you were using while logged on during that findit scan?
I've tested this theory by creating the same Registry entry in my "System" value under the winlogon and can find the entry for it's discovery during the SilentRunners scan...however, even though I've created the same Registry entry that you had, I still cannot create the same findit log with those criteria...which sort of implies to me, that this may indeed be a new "as yet unknown" infection.
I'll address the issues you raised in both of the boxes....
1. My user account is David Sheneman (computer administrator). So, yes, there is an "Sh" in the user account.
2. Spybot Search and Destroy........ There are no boxes checked in the IE Tweaks section of the Advanced Mode page. All three are unchecked.
3. Regarding the following three items:
(ccEvtMgr) ccSetMgr CLTNetCnService
I don't have these three listed exactly as you're showing them from the log file, as such, in the services sections. I do, have those same three line items covered, though as follows:
The service is listed as already started and running under "automatic"
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Haven't a clue........ I don't know (out of my league) as to why the logs are recording the properties lines for those three services and showing that a file is "missing" The services tab shows all three as started and running under the automatic option.
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So, to this point, looking at the above options, I haven't made any changes to any of the programs from this posting.
Let me know where to go from here...... I hope you like a good challenge.
Quote: 1. My user account is David Sheneman...
Excellent. One down. Don't know how your account is set up exactly, as I tried to add initials to my own user account and make the findit batch file show ANYTHING with the initials in front of an exectutable file as was the case with your log. Adding the exact number of characters and spacing...I still couldn't duplicate this phenomenon. Those much smarter than I had already suggested this was the case...Regardless, thanks a million. Mystery solved.
2. Spybot Search and Destroy........ There are no boxes checked in the IE Tweaks section of the Advanced Mode page. All three are unchecked.
Then, if that's the case, I believe this may be the reason for your issues. The "O6" entry in the hjt log indicates the presence of administrative locking features. If you know with certainty that you did nothing to lock down any administrative features preventing the changing of certain System Settings, then we need to fix that line in the hjt log.
3. Regarding the following three items:
(ccEvtMgr)
ccSetMgr
CLTNetCnService
I don't have these three listed exactly as you're showing them from the log file, as such, in the services sections. I do, have those same three line items covered, though as follows:
Regardless, if you found all three of those in your services listings and all are started and set to run automatically, then all is well there.
HijackThis doesn't always pick up certain entries, "O9's" and "O23's" for example, with accurate messages regarding their presence (i.e. file missing or no file messages). This is due to what's called a "White List". In this instance however, my guess is that those services are so new from symantec and the white list not having been updated is the reason for the inquiry. Not necessarily these two, ccEvtMgr and ccSetMgr, as I know they have been around quite a while, but the CLTNetCnService which ties them all together may be the culprit. But as mentioned, not to worry since you found those services in the list and verified their settings.
Now, on to step two:
Please disable Windows Defender again as it will interfere with the removal of the entry using hjt. Remember to re-enable it again when finished.
Please run HijackThis again and check the box next to the following entry:
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
Close all windows now including this browser window...leaving only the HijackThis application window open, then click the Fix Checked button.
Reboot to properly record the changes made to the disk. Once the system comes back up, try your IE "Delete All" function and try to change your start page. Post back your results.
Well, I wish I could say that it worked. It didn't. Still hangs up on the start page, delete history files (again, all of the other delete options work fine), security changes, advanced tab changes......
I've enclosed a copy of the hijackthis.log run after I deleted the "06" entry.
Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 4:56:48 PM, on 3/20/2007
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16414)
We can continue troubleshooting your issues here but it's not necessary to post any hjt logs for this process (at least, not in this forum). If I need another hjt log from you, I will ask you to post again in the HijackThis forum. Thanks!
Quote: Still hangs up on the start page, delete history files (again, all of the other delete options work fine), security changes, advanced tab changes......
What start page are you trying to change to?
Quote: Do we somehow re-enter the "06" entry line since the deletion didn't work. Or was it superfluous anyhow?
As I recall, you had said you checked Spybot Search and Destroy and found there were no check marks in the lock out features available there. Considering that the "O6" entries in the hjt logs usually appear because the user is taking advantage of these lock out features, and that you have confirmed you do not use these features, then you would not need nor want to add the "O6" entry back to your Registry.
Let's try to "Delete All" using a different approach. Make sure all browser windows are closed.
Click start-->run, then copy and paste the following, into the run box and click "OK":
Immediately after clicking "OK", the run box will close.
Next, still without opening any browser windows, from the control panel, double click the "Internet Options" icon. Under the "Browsing history" section, click the
Settings button. Next, click the
View files button. When the Temporary Internet Files window opens, copy all the data that appears and paste it back here on your next reply.
With your current start page being "MyMSN", a password (msn passport) protected sign in, you should not experience any "Hang" issue while signed out of your passport. This of course would include any messengers that you might have running that ALSO use the SAME msn passport (or other msn pages that use the same passport). You are aware that any messenger is also a browser of sorts...aren't you?
Let me know if you'd rather have a command that deletes those functions individually rather that deleting "All" (which of course, also deletes all of your cookies). Thanks!
1. When I delete my cookies, etc., I have to log back into my.msn.com for my start page and then need to select apply / ok to save it. It's when I click apply that the program appears to hang. But when I finally get it closed out through Task Manager and go back into IE that it shows that it did in fact save the URL before hanging up.
2. When I copied the following script in the "Run" box..............
RunDll32.exe InetCpl.cpl,ClearMyTracksByProcess 255............. the Run dialogue box closed immediately, but the "deleting browsing history" box opened the same way it does in Internet Options through the Control Panel or through the browser window. And as it has been doing for some time now, it then hangs / freezes at that dialogue box. The sliding blocks in the progress bar just continue to slide across the box from left to right without ever completing. Finally, I must use Task Manager to close the "not responding" action and exit the program.
3. I could not copy the information you requested from the delete history / settings/ screen. While I could use the select all (only the left hand column would highlight) and the copy icon, nothing copied. I tried using both the copy icon and the Cntrl-C key strike; neither one worked for copying the information to the clipboard. When I would get into this posting, and used the Cntrl-V key nothing happened........ there wasn't any data there to paste. Neither could I get it to work using the paste icon at the top of this block.
I also tried to copy the list to the notepad and then pasting. ... Did not work, either.
Do you have any suggestions on how to get the material into this posting for you to review?
4. I do not use MSN Messenger in any fashion. And the Messenger services are disabled.
5. As noted previously, all of the delete options in Internet Options / Delete History tab work except for the history files itself. Not sure just what you were asking in the last paragraph. I guess I'd like to be able to delete "all" temp files, including cookies. That's what I've done in the past just to keep the system cleaned out. Don't mind having to log in on startup after doing that.... Provided that the system will save the home page parms even though it freezes up when trying to select that initial home page setting.
I use a my.msn.com as my home page. When I delete all the history, etc., files the password is deleted and I need to log in again. When it comes up on the screen I then go to InternetOptions and select "use current page" as the option, click on "apply" and then "ok." It's after I click on either "apply" or "ok" that the system hangs up.
But it doen't matter what page I try to select as my home page. I can pick any site I want and then use the Internet Options procedure, as listed above, to make that my default home page. While it apparently gets the message to apply the page as the home page, the program freezes/ hangs up with the hour glass cursor and then does nothing to complete the process and return to the Internet Options dialogue box.
I then have to use the task manager to close out the session and get out of IE.
This is the same common problem that happens with the delete history tab and the others mentioned previously.
Once in awhile (and only once in a great while) will the Internet Options work as they should. It's then that I get up the false hope that the problem has been resolved. However, after 1-2 reboots of the computer, or 1-2 exits from, and reentry to, IExplorer, the problem resurfaces and the Internet Options are back acting up.
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These common denominators are:
Your Windows Defender software
Your Symantec "nprotect" feature
...and the following entry that is present in all of your hjt logs:
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
Of those, the more likely candidate is the "O6" entry that appears in your hjt log. That entry indicates to me that you either have, or have had the application "Spybot Search and Destroy" (or some similar software) installed and have employed the use of it's Administrative Lock Down feature. Be advised...that's actually a good thing, but will cause heartburn to users who aren't aware of the down side. That is, these features will prevent the current user (or all users depending on it's configuration settings) from making any changes to certain system settings. IE start page of course is one of those.
So...to troubleshoot this issue properly, let's tackle those suspects one at a time. After each attempt to resolve this issue, we will go back to the IE options and try the "Delete All" function and try changing the start page to see if the issue remains. If so, then we abandon that one and go on to the next...see?
So...for your first step, open your on board Spybot Search and Destroy, click the Mode option from the menu at the top and select "advanced" then answer "Yes". You'll see three more options available to you now at the bottom in that left side pane. Click the Tools link from those options. Now, from that drop down list of options, click the "IE tweaks" link. Are there any checks in those boxes in the right pane window? If so, click to remove them, then click "Apply" and close the application. Try your "Delete all" and changing the IE start page now to see if that resolves the issue.
The missing symantec component (Symantec Service Framework) is represented by all of these entries from your last hjt log:
O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h ccCommon (file missing)
O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h ccCommon (file missing)
O23 - Service: Symantec Lic NetConnect service (CLTNetCnService) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h ccCommon (file missing)
All three actually represent only one component but, that component is serving these three functions...or it's supposed to. The log indicates that the service element "ccSvcHst.exe" is missing...although, with hjt, the "O23" entries are not always relied upon as having accurate information regarding this "file missing" message. Each time we see this, the issue must be thoroughly researched. In this case, the alternative message from hjt "no file" is what's important here.
If it were to have said "no file" instead of "file missing" I would recommend reinstalling the software again. But in this case, the message "file missing" may simply imply that the service is present, but just not running. You can check this in your Services panel.
To do this, Right-Click on My Computer and select "Manage". When the "Computer Management" console opens, click "Services and Applications" from the left pane at the bottom. Now Double-Click "Services" in the right pane. Click the "Standard" tab at the bottom to move the text over so you can read it better. Now scroll down and locate the following Service Names
(ccEvtMgr)
ccSetMgr
CLTNetCnService
For each one located, double click on it to open it's properties box. Now, click the Startup type drop down arrow and select Automatic. Under "Service status" click the Start button. Apply it, OK it, and close the properties box. Do this for each of those services listed above. When finished, close the Computer Management Console and reboot to properly record the changes made to the disk.
Post back and let us know your results. Thanks!