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July 26th, 2009 13:00

System startup

Hi there,

New to the forum! I am planning to back up to an external hard drive (yet to arrive) and re-install XP on my Dimension 5150. However, I also have considered going for a PC Restore and, now that I have read some other threads, managing my startup menu. I have a concern that if I uninstall/disable certain items on the menu I may well cause more damage, so I would be very grateful for any advice in that direction. And will this improve overall performance or just the startup (which would seem logical!)?

My PC has, at times, slowed to a crawl - regular defrags and clean-ups offer but temporary relief. I clean the registry with RegCure and de-spam/spyware at least once   a week, so re-installing seems the next logical step. Main use is web surfing and general home use, but not gaming.

I have all the Dell CD's that came with the system, but am very apprehensive as I am NOT an expert in any way and have never attempted anything like this before.

Any advice regarding backing up (how do I know that everything IS backed up, for example iTunes etc?!) and the re-install/PC restore process gratefully received.

Sorry to have got rather verbose!!!!!

Many thanks.

  • Philip_Yip

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    Posted July 26th, 2009 14:00

    I gave the reinstall of xp using discs here:

    http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19286395/19524917.aspx#19524917

    Managing your Start Up Menu using MSCONFIG

    Start > Run > (type in) MSCONFIG (then enter)

    Then Naviagate to the start up tab

    Do not disable anything saying Intel, ATI, NVIDIA, McAfee (or your antivirus stuff),  conexant or broadcom drivers.

    Things for example I disable Adobe, ITUNES, QUICKTIME, Installshield.

    For best results list what you have.

     

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    Posted July 26th, 2009 18:00

    Huw

     

    Looks like most issues have been covered over in the hardware forum thread

     

    I.e. memory capacity & security type software

    Never have more than one AV installed

    Agree with natakuc4, I wouldn’t use registry cleaner type software

     

    Yes, disabling some startup items can cause problems but you can always enable them again

     

    Have you looked in Task Manager to see what if anything is hogging CPU/memory?

     

    Dell Support step-by-step procedures for both the Dell PC Restore & Windows Clean Install are here

     

    Most use the Dell PC Restore (Ctrl & F11 function keys) if available & it still works

    Only because there’s no need for CD/DVD media & it’s a bit quicker

     

    Some prefer to use Windows Clean install to remove Dell preinstalled trial type software that they don’t want

    After you do a Clean Install the Dell PC Restore won’t work when using Ctrl & F11 function keys

     

    Click on the above link, read each method & decide which one you want to use

     

    No matter what method you use, the most time consuming part is downloading & installing Windows updates

    Install critical updates (includes any Service Packs) first

    Or as already suggested by natakuc4, depends on version of your XP CD, download & install Service Pack(s) on you back up media & use that to update windows

     

    The choice is yours, just read & follow each step carefully, run off a print if required

     

    Regarding back up of personal data, suggested categories are mentioned in above procedures

     

    You will need to reinstall any application software either from the relevant Setup CD media or download/Install source e.g. MS Office, iTunes etc..

     

    AV scan ALL your back up data before transferring it back to your computer hard drive

     

    Edit: ooops & it looks like I was a bit slow typing my reply

    Also just double checked the Dell Support procedures

    Unfortunately back up step has been changed, previous version listed categories of personal data to back up

     

     

     

     

     

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    Posted July 26th, 2009 18:00

    Many thanks Natakuc - I felt a bit cheeky using somebody else's thread to try and sort out my problems!!! Hence this new post here.

    You seem to have covered everything - I will study what you have written and try it out. I'll start with the startup menu and let you know how it works. Here's the list:

    isuspm, issch, DLACTRW, ccApp, sprtcmd, dsca, AppleSyncNotifier, atiptaxx, ituneshelper, AAWtray, reader_sl, Mediadetect, CTSysvol, SKDaemon, stsystra, ybrwicon, qtask, wrtmon, realsched, ctfmon, GoogleToolbarNotifier, Digital Line Detect, Quickscan, Service Manager

    Thanks again for such an informative reply.

    Huw

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    Posted August 2nd, 2009 02:00

    Hi there again.

    I have now backed up onto an external HDD. All the files are in DAT form - not sure what to do with them whan I need them!!

    I have been browsing other threads regarding similar problems with performance. It seems to me that it may be a memory problem that I have.

    In windows Task Manager, my 'commit charge' - whatever that is - is over 520 most of the time - right now it's 600+. Should I be looking to upgrade before messing around with re-installs/restores etc? Any advice regarding recommended memory gratefully received.

    Thanks

    Huw

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    Posted August 2nd, 2009 14:00

    Guess you used the backup program on windows, I meant to actually copy and paste all your files over onto the external harddrive, documents, pictures & music. Thats always the way I have backed my files up.

    How much RAM do you have? See here for Memory for your system (run the memory scan on the site aswell):

    http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Dimension%205150

    It is most likely you have a 32bit Operating sstem so it is pointless installing more then 3.5/4Gb of RAM. It depends on what you are doing with your computer but I have found 2Gb of RAM to hit a nice spot for XP. You should install matching pairs. See information below. I recommend either 2×1Gb modules or 4×1Gb modules or 2×2Gb modules.

    • Maximum Memory:   8192MB
    • Slots:   4 (2 banks of 2)
    • Standard Memory:   512MB removable
    • USB Support:   2.x Compliant
    • Although the memory can be installed one module at a time, the best performance comes from using matched pairs of modules.

    Q: Will my system recognize the maximum upgrade?

    A: Possibly

    How much memory your Windows OS will recognize depends on which version of Windows you are running. 32-bit versions of Windows will see (and utilize) only 3GB or 3.5GB. To utilize more memory, install a 64-bit version of your OS. More information about OS memory maximums can be found at http://www.crucial.com/kb/answer.aspx?qid=4251.

     

    Q: What memory goes into my computer, and will a faster speed be backward-compatible?

    A: DDR2 memory with support for DDR2 PC2-5300 speeds.

     

     

    Q: How much memory can my computer handle?

    A: 8192MB.

    Adding the maximum amount of memory will improve performance and help extend the useful life of your system as you run increasingly demanding software applications in the future.

    Q: Do I have to install matching pairs?

    A: No.

    No, you can install modules one at a time, and you can mix different densities of modules in your computer. But if your computer supports dual-channel memory configurations, you should install in identical pairs (preferably in kits) for optimal performance.

     

    Q: Does my computer support dual-channel memory?

    A: Yes.

    To benefit from the performance advantages offered by dual-channel systems, you should install memory in identical pairs. Installing a kitted pair is the best way to ensure that your modules are identical, right down to the chip count.

     

     

    Q: Does my computer support ECC memory?

    A: No.

    Your system does not support ECC. Because ECC and non-ECC modules should not be mixed within a system, install the same type of modules that are already in your system.

     

    For fitting instructions refer to the service manual:

    http://support.euro.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim5150/en/sm/parts1.htm#wp1364711

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    Posted August 2nd, 2009 20:00

    Quote “I have been browsing other threads regarding similar problems with performance.”

     

    Read this thread (2 pages) click here

    It may help if you post some of your 5150 build spec & Task Manger information?

     

    If you intend to upgrade memory, better do Clean Install first, otherwise you may get Setup errors