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October 4th, 2006 13:00

Vista Capable Explained by Microsoft

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    Posted October 4th, 2006 15:00

    Are you saying the info on that page has changed? The page has been there pretty much "forever." Unfortunately, it is a tad ambiguous. It talks about being Vista ready and Vista premium ready. Vista ready represents the minimum needed to run at least Vista Basic. But, unfortunately, Premium is part of the name of one of the Vista versions (Home Premium). Logically, and by the specs given, Vista premium ready means being able to run Aero Glass. A Vista-related search turned up this dead link which clarifies to some extent:

    "System requirements for Windows Vista: The Windows Vista Premium Ready program identifies hardware that can deliver these premium experiences. Features that are available in specific premium editions of Windows Vista, such ..." [everything but Vista Basic I think].

    WDDM seems to be the major hang up for "older" (six months old--LOL) Dell systems like mine with integrated graphics. My concern is that the Vista install DVD will not allow users such as me, who could care less about Aero Glass, to install, for example, Vista Ultimate. But, I suspect that I am overly concerned that MS would do something this dumb. MS appears to negate this possibility as follows on the page you link:

    "Can the Windows Vista experience vary on different PCs?

    Yes. Windows Vista is the first Windows operating system with a user experience that adapts to take advantage of the capabilities of the hardware on which it is installed."

    Message Edited by Znod on 10-04-2006 11:50 AM

    Message Edited by Znod on 10-04-2006 11:57 AM

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    Posted October 4th, 2006 17:00

    All Microsoft has to do now is list the spec's for Vista Ultimate, and hope those with the entry level system read it, so they won't go hog wild, and purchase one with either the integrated video or the pci slot card....   :smileyvery-happy:
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    Posted October 4th, 2006 18:00

    I believe Aero must have a minimum of 128megs of dedicated RAM on the graphics card that's why I keep saying that nVidia and ATi will make a killing off this.
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    Posted October 4th, 2006 19:00

    Right, all I am missing is WDDM. Then, I'd be pretty Aero capable for a relatively inexpensive laptop.
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    Posted October 5th, 2006 06:00

    just wanted to mention that I installed build 5728 today on an Inspiron E1405 with 1G of RAM. Aero runs well on it. This machine has a memory shared Intel video card. So, it is possible to have Vista Ultimate run on a machine without physical RAM on the video card.
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    Posted October 5th, 2006 12:00



    TravelingSpirit wrote:
    just wanted to mention that I installed build 5728 today on an Inspiron E1405 with 1G of RAM. Aero runs well on it. This machine has a memory shared Intel video card. So, it is possible to have Vista Ultimate run on a machine without physical RAM on the video card.


    Build 5728 is not the Utlimate version, but the Premium, so what I have heard, and read, those with the integrated video will not be able to run Vista Ultimate on those systems.  And who in their right mind would spend about $400.00 for the Ultimate version on a entry level system ?
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    Posted October 5th, 2006 12:00

    A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:

    1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor1.

    1 GB of system memory.

    Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum) Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.

    40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.

    DVD-ROM Drive

    Audio output capability.

    Internet access capability.

    http://www.vistahunt.com/download-windows-vista-ultimate.html  In part it reads below......

    Ultimate requirements...

    The processor must be of high speed, which should be higher than 2 GHz. The Hard disk capacity required to be of high capacity of at least 40 GB. The RAM required hoped to be at least 512 MB  ( Many say 2 gb of main memory ). Another requirement is a high Graphics card with at least 256 MB RAM, which supports Direct X 9.

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    Posted October 5th, 2006 14:00

    I wish I could attach screen shots to this thread, so I could include sysinfo, devmgr, and build # captures. Nevertheless, I am 100% sure that I am running Vista Ultimate on an Inspiron E1405, which does NOT have dedicated video RAM. Granted, when I run Outlook, a virus scanner, and about 2-3 more windows apps, my physical (1G)RAM gets pegged to about 80%. It's by no means a speed deamon, but it's good enough for me. Yes, the "switch window" shortcut (windows key + tab) gives me the 3D view of the active windows.
    By the way, here's what Dell has to say about this machine and others: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/solutions/en/vista_pcs?c=us&l=en&s=gen

    I hope this helps.