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October 11th, 2022 10:00

Area-51 R4, RTX 4090 compatible?

I have a 2017 released Area-51 R4 with an i9-7980XE and 1500 watt OEM PSU.  

I want to upgrade the GPU to a 2022 released RTX 4090 for deep learning and drawing. However, I am not sure if the motherboard or PSU will support the card? If anyone has an idea or how I could go about doing that?

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October 11th, 2022 11:00

your mobo and PSU should support RTX 4090 . . . you may see some CPU bottleneck, depending on your usage regime

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October 11th, 2022 11:00

I think some is an understatement. Only the best and fastest CPU's will be able to keep up with the 4090. Its unfortunate they released that card first because it's a huge leap over the 3000 series.

October 11th, 2022 13:00

They actually are using the i9-7980XE's in deep learning machines so I think it should be fine.  For example https://bizon-tech.com/bizon-g3000.html 

They build and sell deep learning workstations and servers and the i9-7980XE is the best CPU they offer.

Kinda what gave me the idea to try to upgrade this machine.  Seems these CPU's are good for deep learning application.

October 11th, 2022 13:00

Looks like I'll have to do some research.  Most places will show the 4090 as a compatible card with this CPU chipset but I also realize the RTX 4090 is a PCIe 4.0 card and my mobo is 3.0 so it will also be bottlenecked there.

Decisions decisions.  

October 11th, 2022 13:00

Ah...  Thanks.  

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October 11th, 2022 13:00

That is interesting . . . I guess 18 cores & 36 threads is key for machine learning.

October 11th, 2022 13:00

I'm going to give it a try.  Thanks

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October 11th, 2022 13:00

No, you have a i9-7980XE

What they offer is a i9-10980XE

 

That is a few generations after yours, so I would be doing some research on this before dropping a few thousand on a video card.

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October 11th, 2022 14:00

You could bench your current setup against mine, to see what your scores are: My benchmark 

It's a free benchmark. It should give you an idea on what your current performance levels are.

October 11th, 2022 14:00

I don't have anything overclocked so results are, meh... lol

UserBenchmarks: Game 90%, Desk 81%, Work 116%
CPU: Intel Core i9-7980XE - 72.2%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti - 118.3%
SSD: Nvme PC300 SK hy 512GB - 128.6%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB - 89.1%
HDD: WD Black 500GB (2012) - 78.1%
RAM: Micron 16ATF2G64AZ-2G6H1 4x16GB - 109.9%
MBD: Alienware Area-51 R4

October 11th, 2022 14:00

The look like pretty much the same chip.  Not a whole lot of difference. 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-7980XE-vs-Intel-Core-i9-10980XE/m352013vsm935899

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October 11th, 2022 18:00

Here are mine for comparison. I do have things tweaked up a bit.

It's slightly faster than yours...

UserBenchmarks: Game 236%, Desk 112%, Work 265%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X - 110.9%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3080 - 218.4%
SSD: Wd_black SN850 PS5 1TB - 464.9%
SSD: Sandisk G5 BICS4 1TB - 116.7%
RAM: Corsair CMW32GX4M2D3600C18 2x16GB - 122.5%
MBD: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI)

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October 13th, 2022 21:00


@romeshomey wrote:

I don't have anything overclocked so results are, meh... lol

UserBenchmarks: Game 90%, Desk 81%, Work 116%
CPU: Intel Core i9-7980XE - 72.2%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti - 118.3%
SSD: Nvme PC300 SK hy 512GB - 128.6%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB - 89.1%
HDD: WD Black 500GB (2012) - 78.1%
RAM: Micron 16ATF2G64AZ-2G6H1 4x16GB - 109.9%
MBD: Alienware Area-51 R4

It doesn't look too bad.

How about a RTX-3080 or RTX-3080-TI ... those are still nice cards and maybe a better match?

So, I'm guessing Hynix 512gb NVMe-SSD is your C-Drive, but what's the deal with all the spinning HDDs?

October 13th, 2022 22:00

Ha lol..  They are just old drives that instead of moving data from to a new drive, I just mount in whatever system I use because I'm lazy.  

I ended up deciding not to upgrade my GPU for now.  Will reconsider after the holidays.

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February 21st, 2023 06:00

hey, i have an R5 with a i9-9820x, do you think it can work with a 4090? I was trying for some time to find a similar thread and this is the first time. I am pretty bad with PC and builds, so pardon my ignorance or if there are sites that provide such information

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