Aurora R4, motherboard upgrade, CPU? #3

One other pertinent info that needs to be addressed here and possibly needs feedback here... Because the Rog Gene mobo is so new and current, particularly being not even a year old & just this summer 2019 it's available in the US, and with it's own 2 Dual Dimms DC (Double Capacity) DDR4 Memory Cards, that only two manufacturers make this card, G.Skill & Zadak.  I can't seem to locate any of these currently available for purchase on Amazon or NewEgg, or any place else now?!  Which that alone scares me, because it should drive up the prices even higher than they already are and will be.  But secondly, I could and would like to simply equip some 2x8 for 16GB at the minimum, 1.) "to save money temporarily."  2.) Will help to wait until prices to drop.  3) I won't actually need all of that memory right away.  4.) This will be the simplest and easiest thing to both install and replace.  BUT, there is this compatibility issue that is completely unknown also here, so I'm unsure of IF I can go the 2x8=16GB route at all, because no one is mentioning that, and/ or there is no info out there on this whatsoever.  So, any thoughts on this as well will be greatly appreciated also.  Sooooo many things to think about!  My brain hurts!!!  LOL  Seriously.

*See the links above in my post before this one for more info.      

@Catpsyche     Replying to your commenting about, "possible custom work?!"  *Screams! 

No need to scream. Just make sure you are thinking the project through, which it appears you are doing (at 4 o'clock in the morning). Another smart thing you are doing is coming here and 'talking it out', getting input and ideas from others. Again, custom mods are fun, just make a good plan and have the right tools.

@r72019    Interesting placement though, if I don't shove my floor jack up against the wall

I cannot put that jack against the wall right now because there is another "in-progress" restoration project hiding behind the bike with the yellow cover. I have also smashed a few toes on that little jack. My other jack has a motor sitting on it, so it is a bit more obvious and easier to avoid foot damage.

Can't relate to smashing toes into jacks but I step on lego and various wooden/ plastic blocks every other night. May I join the club? 

@Catpsyche / @Cass-Ole , I'd like to add that the stock R8 120mm AIO is also limited even when paired with a 6-core 9600K. So yeah, at least > 40mm thickness or 240mm length. I believe the R4 is a bigger chassis that could accommodate that.

I've seen a 240 go into R1-R4 a few times (photos), only if the top comes off, the inside is re-done (to drop mthrbrd) or plumb it into the floor (= ... otherwise, without mods, a 120x49 is as good as it gets

below's a pic I had saved of Maximus VIII Gene 6700k during setup

Since you have a quad 3820, here's a head-to-head from last week ... where even a Ryzen 5 turns things into a blood bath > Sandy Bridge 3960X vs Today's Six-Core / 12 Thread AMD/Intel CPUs

@Cass-Ole     I've seen a . . . few things

This one looks very interesting. Do you have any photos of the completed project, or a link to more information? Is this one of your mods??

Yeah, please do post a link to build log if possible.

Just came back from looking at case mod **bleep** at overclock forum. 

@Cass-Ole   I assume you mean the wet boy in photo #3 (white interior?)

Now how did you ever guess that I would like that one 

My R4 is still original except for Seasonic 1000w platinum + custom sleeved cables

I would love to see photos of that rig, if you don't mind sharing.

@ 630 > I can't see your pic yet, I assume you mean the wet boy in photo #3 (white interior?), if so it's an old build seen on LTT, almost all pic-links are broken now

Top (blk interior) was seen on eBay, middle (red interior) was by Justin (DugiHowser) who'd modded the white interior one above & had sold it to the guy. Bottom pic w/ 6700k Gene was sent to me in a PM but I never saw the finished build

My R4 is still original except for Seasonic 1000w platinum + custom sleeved cables

STS, a Texas surplus vendor bought ~40 R4's from Dell's RoundRock HQ years back & listed on eBay, I got my ALX Aug 2014 as a bare case ($130) + Ivy mthrbrd / 38mm cooler (125) + Radeon 290x (230), I put in a new 4820k CPU + memory / SSD from Micro Center, cost at time was ~$950 to get it running. Only future plan is try out a used 4930k or 4960x soon. It hasn't seen much use the past 5years, sits under a drape mostly (my 51s get the most use)

R4 side panels are dull matte black, so I picked up complete sets of R1 Cosmic Black & Lunar Shadow panels, they're semi-gloss (painted) so I took polishing compound & wax to those, buffed out a hi-gloss mirror finish

I also have a full panel suite of the optional R3 Chrome set (metallic paint), like below

This way my R4 can costume change into 4 different looks

I banged out the Seasonic cable set ~6 months ago, materials are Lutro0 MainFrame paracord / 16awg thin-jacket wire / gold tips / empty connectors; black accent sleeves are left-overs from a Cablemod set (strip off sleeves from their 18/20awg & re-use). 24pin is sized down to 21" (from 24), GRFX are 12" each (from 24), CPU is 28" (up from 24), SATA-Molex are close replicas of original cables. The far side cover's off to show I'd sleeved up the various misc. case wires; also added 100mm top fans. It's been a fun desktop to own, & still snappy

@Cass-Ole      if they don't load (need approval)

They all loaded and look awesome. Thank you for sharing!

@Cass-Ole  I can really see that you also are into the Aurora-R4's.  You have some really sweet photos interiors and exteriors there.  And I particularly like the R4's that have the Vented Throttle Fan on top, The Awesome Chrome & Hi-Gloss Paint on the sides, and the one with The Dark Purple or Dark Blue Wiring...  I'd also like to add, it's one thing to add on the upgrade you believe will be better overall for your machine, but when you change the streamline of airflow to all of that, with the added heat that comes with that technology.  I mean, redirecting all air flow?!  Well?! --- I don't know how you guys get so brave.  It all looks great!  As long as it preforms well too, you have all my respect!  Many Kudos to you!!! ^5

*Please note that I don't get notifications about these posts because they weren't replies to me directly.  That's why such the late response.  Just so happened to pop on here and BOOM, there it is!

Funny, cus, I have been surfing EVERYTHING - Aurora-R4, Rog Maximus Xl Gene (including; Mobo replacement, Double Capacity Memory, M.2's NVMe), Intel i9-9900k, and looking at AIO's.  So far, the Corsair H80i could be the perfect replacement for, without modding, my old Alienware AIO, but this is not definitive and research is still ongoing for something better that fits my criteria.

I did find close to a jackpot find, in that a Rog Maximus Vll Gene was installed into the Aurora-R4, which is actually about 1 inch bigger than the Xl Gene I'm planning on getting.  It fit like a glove, and apparently No Modding at all done there.  Video posted below, here, and at 4:00 is the Gene Vll installed.  A very good bare-bones rebuild for being around a 5 year old vid too... Also, ANYONE, please add a link to anything like this here.  TY!  

*CORRECTION - Community will Not allow me to post video here.  You can see it on the You-Channel, under this heading, "Alienware Aurora R4 Barebones Case PC Build", under this guy, "Fresh Paint." 

@Cass-Ole I was meaning to comment further on your Chrome Remake R4, couldn't get it out of my head, so I came back... Your Chrome would make Any Sci-Fi Geek go completely crazy if you did it all in chrome, and somehow managed to incorporate the following; Totally Chrome with Black front (Face/ Mouth Piece), & Red Light LED pulsating from left to right, or just allowed the Alien Head to slowly pulsate (fade in and out) RED.  Totally Cylon-Esque!  Hope you catch my drift with the Totally Bitchin' 80's - Cylon of Battlestar Galactica!!! ~ "By your command."

https://youtu.be/ubHXYi1VFhc

Aurora R1-R4 owners have always been reluctant to share their swap experiences, I ran out of useful links to add for advice. There were one or two but when the picture links no longer work, all u get is muddled text without context. I saw the uTube vid u linked to a few years ago; while I'm glad the guy was able to swap in an Asus board, he did NOT need to cut then splice the front panel wire harness as seen & discussed in 5m-11m. The front panel connector is a Dupont 10pin 5x5, where the wires have the correct terminals which in some cases only need backed out & reassigned or transferred into a 10x10 (as Asus used to use) or dual 5x5s; R1-R4 use a semi-standard MSI wiring scheme which is mostly plug & play w/ other brands, but when it isn't, u take a needle to your original 5x5 - back the terminal(s) out - & re-arrange them (or transfer them to new 10x10 / x2 5x5 connector) according to new mthrbrds needs, similar to here Aurora-R1, Motherboard and CPU upgrade? where 'how do I wire it for the new board' depends on the exact mthrbrd u buy, which is based on the wiring diagram in the owner's manual or its online PDF (it'll either be plug n play or won't be & proceed from there) --> you take the original board's JFP1 front panel diagram and 'solve for X' for new board's diagram 9as stated, it's either plug n play or needs pin reassignments), cutting & splicing shouldn't be on the table, it's unnecessary (if anything, find a source for empty 1pin/2pin mthrbrd connex, back your terminals out & convert the front panel wiring over the right way)

The very latest info on Intel's 400 Series and the complete line up to follow of all the 400 Series Motherboards that will be arriving Q1 of 2020 is really throwing me for another loop here.  What to do?!  So, I'm back with some more info., contemplation(s), and by all means "suggestions."

About a month ago I pretty much was planning on upgrading to the new i9-9000KS 300 Series (not just the K, and definitely Not the KF) by possibly Cyber Monday.  Also, that I would get the Asus Rog Maximus XI Gene, and since that board housed the new dual DC 32GB DDR4's (x2 cards for 64GB max), yet are still nowhere to be bought anywhere online in the market, even a year later, I would easily suffice to get 2 non DC's 2x16GB=32GB.  And followed by, the Corsair H80i V2 AIO Cooler 120mm thick radiator to keep everything as cool as I possibly can with the space allotted.  I admit it's probably Not the best of guarantees or the most conventional that any/ all would work together harmoniously, but it was the best configurations I had come up with in all the things that I had wanted.  There is still time to reconsider before actually purchasing and applying said plans and products.  And, there is no real rush exception for the time constraints to sales and getting the best values possible with the best tech to hopefully last up to a decade out.

Now Enter - All the new info being presented about Intel's new 400 Series line-up, that are Not compatible with the 300 Series Motherboard(s).  All the newest 400 Series Motherboards that have not even been released to view yet, but what are released are all of the set stats.  And, what I am waiting for now are actual Benchmarks, like how "hotter running or cooler running" these newer 400's are in comparison to their 300's, because COOLER IS BETTER!  Yet, we already know that they are running at lesser power and wattage with higher rates of Everything good across the board.

Sooooo, is the first 3 to 4 months of 2020 worth waiting to see how big the leap forward in tech will be, or is all this newer tech just a lot more talk, more hype, and really a little numbers game compared to actual performance?  Is all of this simply like comparing actual oranges to one specific oranges to one another, when what is being talked about is specific types of oranges and just slight variations of one another?  Or like talking visual TV concepts like OLED, LED, 4k, UHD, etc.?  I dunno?!?!  What I do know is that I've been reading a lot about how quickly we are moving from 14nm++, 14mn+++, and to 10nm, and that Intel is already working towards 7nm, and/ or rumors of even 5nm now.  Cores and Thread Counts from 8/16 to 10/20, and this is just in the tip of the latest technologies.  I think I need more to compare these numbers to... Btw, I also already know about many things Reyzen and AMD.  However, those are completely different operating systems then the one I am speaking about, which my system is Not compatible with since just upgrading to my Geforce GPU.  It's an either/ or situation in the PC world, and I'm definitely already invested into the Intel line of tech. Just keeping to these lines of facts.  

I'll post some links (below) to give you some of the perspectives that I've mentioned here so far.  And, I'm not necessarily ruling out what I have once decided to go with earlier.  But, I am definitely still open to reconsidering other options that fit my needs here.  Disappointment will come if I make this huge purchases and upgrades, and then in a mere couple of years tech has waaay surpassed that, and then I'm sitting back here in Obsolete-ville with my Expensive-nothingness.  Just, NO!!!  I want to buy enough Time and Tech for my Bucks!

Also noteworthy, Google Stadia, once Google Stream in Beta that was very successful, will stream games, along with many other game streaming serves to come.  IF they succeed in winning game titles over, and IF they then win Gamers over, then the importance of system requirements/ hardware in our computers could be less irrelevant, and quite possibly go obsolete.  Of course, The Catch is that you pay around a $15 monthly fee.  So, there's all that to consider as well to newer tech, gaming, and hardware vs. streaming services.

The tech industry wants to get us one way or the other!... Now Enter - Linux.  LOL  All of these proprietary decisions!!!... Thoughts on any of this, please.(?)

https://wccftech.com/intel-10th-gen-core-i5-desktop-comet-lake-cpu-spotted/

https://www.neowin.net/news/gigabyte-400-series-motherboards-for-intel-comet-lake-s-spotted-at-eec/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/18/meet-the-linux-desktop-that-will-blow-away-windows-10-and-macos-in-2020/#4cc4b9f45c9a

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/processors/core/9th-gen-core-mobile-processors-brief.html?cid=sem&source=sa360&campid=2019_ao_ccg_us_ccgpci_ccgpci2_educat_text-link_brand_bmm_cd_always-on-core-9thgen_O-1P6K5_google&ad_group=corp_us_brand_intel9thgen&intel_term=%2B9th+%2Bgeneration+%2Bintel&sa360id=43700043559115662&ds_rl=1277529&ds_rl=1277529&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrrXtBRCKARIsAMbU6bE8WW8VH6X7OShea8Wprkgmzrb2-GhwgMssVjl4ZaIH2uco1lN_RvcaAoi4EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds