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April 10th, 2008 07:00

Procedure for replacing 4 switches

Hello

We currently have 2 fabrics, each one consists of two 32 port and two 16 port Brocade switches. We want to replace the 16 port core switches with new 32 port Brocade 5000 switches.

Does anyone have or can show me where I can find documentation which shows the correct procedure for replacing the switches?

I just don't want to miss a step and mess things up.

Thanks

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April 10th, 2008 12:00

You have options .. And it's a good thing :D

However it's better if you describe how switches are interconnected. A topology may be of great help :D

-s-

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April 10th, 2008 20:00

there would be less disruptions if you add the new switches to the existing fabric first.
once your switch merges into existing fabric, you can move over the hosts/arrays and then demise older switches.

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April 10th, 2008 23:00

And what's even better: if you used wwn zoning, you could simply unplug patch cables from the old switch and plug them into the new one and the zone would be up and running again without any reconfiguration.
Although: be aware of HPUX, since that is dependant of FCID's and you might need to rescan for the lun's again and you need to do some magic in UX to get volume groups working again.

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April 11th, 2008 00:00

Although: be aware of HPUX, since that is dependant
of FCID's and you might need to rescan for the lun's
again and you need to do some magic in UX to get
volume groups working again.


Magic ?? What's magic ?? ;-)

You need to shut down your host, boot in single user mode, create an io-map (a file that associate hardware stuff in the host with corresponding kernel drivers and instance numbers) modify it to reflect new FCIDs, push the new map in the kernel, reboot touching wood and finally verify that everything is at its correct place. If something is still broken, jump again at the beginning of the procedure .. Magic ?? I don't think it's magic .. it's a nightmare ;-)

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April 11th, 2008 02:00

We don't have HPUX, only Sun Solaris and Windows so that shouldn't be a problem.

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April 11th, 2008 02:00

Blessed you !! :D

If you still have free ports on your edges, configure new switches with valid and available Domani IDs, create ISLs from existing edges to new cores, verify that everything is working as expected and finally remove old ISLs to old cores. It looks like the best "procedure" ...

@everybody: Any other idea on this ??

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April 11th, 2008 02:00

its same idea as mine :(

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April 11th, 2008 04:00

Whoahahahahaha... nightmare, hahahahaha

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April 11th, 2008 12:00


Magic ?? What's magic ?? ;-)

You need to shut down your host, boot in single user
mode, create an io-map (a file that associate
hardware stuff in the host with corresponding kernel
drivers and instance numbers) modify it to reflect
new FCIDs, push the new map in the kernel, reboot
touching wood and finally verify that everything is
at its correct place. If something is still broken,
jump again at the beginning of the procedure .. Magic
?? I don't think it's magic .. it's a nightmare ;-)


i think a more elegant and bullet proof way of doing this on HPUX is to export the volume group while creating a map file, do your SAN work ..ioscan/insf -e ..and re-import your VGs with your map files.

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April 11th, 2008 13:00

nothing need to be worried about the VG if only the CTD number is changed as the LVM can still collect all the disk with the lvm header/vgid informarion.

the thing to worry about is the ctd of cluster lock vg which is hard coded in the cluster config file . Cluster cant come up this case. we did a work around in simialr cases by keeping the ctd device files of both old and new path with the same major&minor number. I mean update the old device which is in config file with the same major/number as the new path/ctd.

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April 11th, 2008 18:00

cool ..so no need to recompile the cluster ?

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April 14th, 2008 02:00

i think a more elegant and bullet proof way of doing this on HPUX is to export the volume group while creating a map file, do your SAN work ..ioscan/insf -e ..and re-import your VGs with your map files.


that's the magic I was talking about ;)

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April 14th, 2008 12:00

"cool ..so no need to recompile the cluster ?"

yes, no need. Also the recompiling the cluster requires the whole cluster need to be down (all the nodes)

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April 14th, 2008 19:00

so when you re-created new device with major/minor numbers of the old ctd device ..did you do it on the fly , without taking the cluster down ?

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April 15th, 2008 01:00

Interesting idea..... The FCID doesn't change if I'm correct, so UX doesn't need a wizard to get it all working again, which is good.
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