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July 21st, 2017 09:00
Gen6 A200/2000 node: what can you expect ?
Hello everybody,
[I've also posted this message on the Isilon Technical User Google Groups]
Gen6 nodes are new and I understand that it is gonna be difficult to have feedback from the field.
But I'll try. Our technical contact told us there is already some A2000 cluster in the U.S, so maybe
we could have something interesting here ! Of course our different Isilon contacts are involved, but
we are interested in all the feedback we can get.
Let's think about an Isilon cluster with 30% of H500 nodes and 70% of A200/2000 nodes. I've got 70%
of cold data that I can identify and move to the A2xxx nodes using a Smartpool policy. Everything
looked fine until I saw some of the hardware for the A nodes: a 129$ D1508 2 cores (4 HT) Pentium
Processor and 16 GB of ram.
What do you think of this in a scenario where only H nodes will handle external cifs/nfs clients
(A2xxx nodes will only be using the internal - new - ethernet backend), 99% of the activity will
happen on the H500 nodes with 1% (or less) of traffic to the A2xxx nodes ? Even with this quantity
of RAM and this CPU, I guess it should work quite well.
My concerns are more about the different jobs running on the cluster, like fsnalyze, multiscan,
snapshot deletion, synciq... I don't have enough knowledge how the job engine is working, but I
understand that most of the job will involve all the nodes or most of them.
What will be the impact of such a difference of computing power between H500 and A2xxx nodes in the
jobs runtime ? What about the clients side of thing ? Will everything be throttled down ? Are we
talking order of magnitude here or something more like 10/20% slower ?
We had a lot a problems (fsanalyze taking weeks, multiscan always failing, snapshot deletion taking
a lot of cpu for long period of time...) with the job engine (S200/X400/NL400). We never really had
definitive answers about that besides upgrading OneFS. There has been a lot of improvement in OneFS
8 (fsanalyze using snapshot differences is one them and seems to work quite well after the initial
scan) but I can't stop myself that all of that could have been caused by hardware difference between
nodes. Maybe or maybe not.
Our NL400 have 48 GB of memory, two cpu with 4 cores (no HT) each. That's a lot different from 2
cores and 16 GB of ram and I'm really wondering what could be the side effects in the ideal scenario
I've mentionned).
While I'm here, what will you choose between L3 cache and GNA (if we have enough SSD space to
activate it of course) in a mixed H500/A2xxx cluster ?
Jean-Baptiste


jbdenis
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July 24th, 2017 02:00
I don't have the real number here, but the long term target will look like 4/5 H500 chassis and around 10 A2xxx chassis.
chjatwork
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July 24th, 2017 02:00
O this is going to be an interesting conversation. My I ask how big will
this cluster be? I know you broke it down into percentages, but the number
of total nodes could/will play a big part in being able to better estimate
the impact for many of the questions you have.
sjones51
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July 24th, 2017 13:00
Hi jbdenis,
Thanks for your post. I wanted to help provide some resources for those looking to join in the conversation.
Isilon A200 & A2000 Support page: https://support.emc.com/products/41844_Isilon-A200_A2000
Isilon F800 Support page: https://support.emc.com/products/41848_Isilon-F800
Isilon H600 Support page: https://support.emc.com/products/41847_Isilon-H600
Isilon H500 Support page: https://support.emc.com/products/41846_Isilon-H500
Isilon H400 Support page: https://support.emc.com/products/41843_Isilon-H400