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December 6th, 2013 09:00
M18x R1 stopped working
Hi all
I have an M18x R1 laptop with all the whistles & bells (£2.5k) worth which I use to develop games / xwebsites and 3d art.
It started playing up a few days ago by booting up slowly, disabled indexed search which helped a little, then it booted up with a guest / temp profile.
So I did a respawn and now it won't boot up at all!
All I get now is a black screen with my movable mouse cursor which goes dim after a few minutes.......and that's it.
Done a full check of all hardware which has passed, would this be a simple software issue?
oh sorry forgot to say...windows 7 x64
Please help!
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CODpiece360
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December 16th, 2013 07:00
ha ha ha OMG I don't believe what I've just found!
What a complete mellon brain
In the utility room cleaning out one of the freezer and found the original box my Alienware came in!
Opened it up, these a nice Alienware cap
and a very nice Alienware black leather effect folder with........yep you guessed it.....
ALL OF THE DRIVERS & OS I need ha ha ha ha
Derp!
PhoenixBennu
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December 6th, 2013 11:00
Im sorry to hear you are having this much trouble. If you are seeing a mouse cursor, it sounds like it is booting into windows partially, but that some things may be corrupt.
Are you able to boot into BIOS? If so, I would suggest running the BIOS checks.
Otherwise, I would encourage you to start by removing and all peripherals such as: usb drives, printers, mouse, external monitor, any extra RAM, and then trying to boot.
I would also test booting to an external monitor.
Do you see anything at all during bootup? Do you hear any sounds/beep/windows load/etc?
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December 6th, 2013 11:00
To add to the above great advice from PHOENIXBENNU, here are a few additional troubleshooting suggestions you can try as necessary:
Try booting into Safe Mode and see if you still have a black screen. If you don't have a black screen in Safe Mode, use Windows System Restore to roll back your system to an earlier date when things were functioning correctly. If that puts you back in business, take a moment to disable automatic Windows Updates. Windows Updates can cause a plethora of issues if you have it configured to automatically install updates. Video driver updates from the Microsoft Catalog are notorious for causing serious performance and/or functionality problems.
If you are still having issues after using System Restore, it could still be a software/driver problem, but you could have a problem with a bad video card or even a dying hard drive/SSD. You need to determine whether the problem is hardware failure. If you were fortunate enough to have already installed one of svl7's awesome unlocked BIOS, simply switch your BIOS video setting from PEG to IGFX and see if you still have a black screen. If you do and the screen only goes black as Windows starts to load, you probably have a bad HDD or a corrupted Windows installation.
If you have a spare HDD, take out your existing drive(s) and do a fresh Windows installation on that spare HDD. I am making this suggestion because you seem concerned about data loss, otherwise I would simply suggest wiping out everything on your current disks with a clean installtion. Using a spare disk (even an old and slow one) would allow you to determine if a bad HDD or corrupt Windows installation is causing the problem without losing data on your existing drive(s).
If the above does not remedy the situation, pull your discrete video cards and see if things work correctly using Intel integrated graphics. If they do, install just the primary GPU. If the screen goes black using that graphics card, swap the heat sinks and put the secondary card in place of the primary GPU and see if it works correctly. If it does, you will know that the other GPU is bad.
What video cards do you have?
CODpiece360
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December 6th, 2013 11:00
Hi PB thank you so much for the speedy response!
Right then..... windows appears to start as normal with the soft glowing windows logo and plays the "open windows" sound / fanfare then just goes to the black screen.
I can move the mouse cursor around with the pad but that it nothing else works.
I can F12 to the BIOS without any problems, I have run all the checks there and all checks pass without any problems!
The only peripherals I use is a mouse which is unplugged.
thanks again
CODpiece360
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December 6th, 2013 13:00
Right guys....thank you both loads btw
Some progress is better than none....right?
Ok.....F8 on boot - safe mode same problem so - rebooted - F8 to run a kind of old skool ScanDisk on C:
Messages shown: Deleting corrupt attribute record (128, "") from record segment 18923.
Once complete, rebooted...........started as usual If a bit slow.........then yep black screen again....so I left it...........many minutes later......
der der der (windows fanfare) eventually took me to my desktop, however: ridiculously slow and I mean really really REALLY slow.
Egg timer (spiny blue circle) is making a rare appearance!
Looks as though I'm back to basics regarding software........which I can live with.
Trying to run PC Checkup and the egg timer is earning its money and...oh hello......The application is not responding window has decided to join in the fight now!
Yep and there we go.........now nothing is responding! AVG widget is in the top right, the Alienware head wallpaper is there along with my faithful mouse cursor and that's it guys not even Ctrl, Alt + Del wants get involved.
Must be software guys what do you think?
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December 6th, 2013 16:00
Cool! Glad you finally got to a desktop. That is a small thing, but still progress compared to a black screen.
Yes, it is potentially a software, driver or malware problem. It could still be a problem with the hard disk. Passing the ePSA testing at boot is good, but it does not rule out hardware 100% as the possible cause.
If you look at your Windows Resource Monitor, do you see your memory or CPU resources running at 100%. If resource utilization is not off the chart, this further indicates the possibility of disk failure. If your system resource are being gobbled up, then it is likely a software (potentially malware) problem.
Did you try using System Restore to roll back to a date that the system functioned properly?
I would recommend backing up your important files as soon as possible so you don't lose anything critical and then try a clean Windows reinstallation or disk restore using AlienRespawn. If that fails, you will know something is going haywire with your drive(s).
CODpiece360
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December 7th, 2013 10:00
Really appreciate the help guys!
OK....now I'm going to make myself look a right noob here....
I never created a restore point or rescue disc!
yep......I'm paying big for it now....lesson learnt and the hard way to boot
Got to safe mode and now appears to behaving itself, however that's about all I can get.
So, I have gone and got myself a copy of Windows 7 to reinstall, I can't afford to waste any more time chaps.
Thank you for the help anyway!
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CODpiece360
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December 7th, 2013 12:00
Aaaaahhhhhhhhhh This is driving me nuts now guys, sure I'm going a little bit insane, I'm sitting here rocking back and forth grinning to myself
All the drivers seem to be playing hide n seek! Or is this normal with a fresh OS install?
Even my wifi driver has vanished and I can't connect to the internet to download all the other drivers!
I have, however got a baby laptop which I have DLd the wifi driver and stuck it on a flashy stick!
PhoenixBennu
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December 7th, 2013 14:00
Using the USB Flash drive is a good way. I have run into the issue with the wireless driver, sinc eit wont auto install or plug and play from a new install. Ive become good friends with my handy dandy flash drive. At least its not like it was back with windows xp when i had to redo a customer install disk to make sure esata drivers were included when normally they are not. Pain in the hind end.
Bug like suggested, use the USB flash drive to do the wireless drivers, then do everythign from the Dell website, :)
CODpiece360
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December 7th, 2013 14:00
Hey thanks all, I think I may have stumbled on the problem
All was running blisteringly fast until...........I installed my anti virus
Then it all went Pete Tong again
slow slow slow and hanging like a hangy thing from hangs vile!
Got rid of Anti V in safe mode DLd AVG & all seems ok at the min.
Just on Dell dot com doing a sys detect biz.....so fingers crossed.
Got to be honest I am very impressed with the help I've received

So cheers guys really appreciate it.
89fordprobee
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December 7th, 2013 15:00
we most of us here are end users like you are and run into issues and figured em out... like me with my M18X R2 and software conflicts and resolutions ... or like Fox and much own at a lot of the forums I see him on :O
CODpiece360
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December 8th, 2013 05:00
Ok...all is working great again.
Just installing 144 driver updates
One last question, where do I get the alienware software that came with my laptop?
Not sure what it's called but it's the one that changes the colour of the keyboard & Alien Autopsy etc......?
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December 8th, 2013 07:00