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July 6th, 2005 21:00
Control F11 Fix
Here are the directions on how to fix the Dell MBR so you can restore the Control-F11 at boot-up so you can restore your troubled PC to like new condition, as if you just received it new from Dell.
The following is specific to Dell but
is not specific to the machine or model.
So it applies to any Dell PC, desktop or laptop.
When you use Control-F11, you are restoring a disk image, you will lose everything on your C drive, so backup your files that you created before you proceed.
You need 2 good blank floppy disks.
One is for a Windows 98 boot disk. If you do not have one, download it for free from here:
Double click this file so it will create the Windows 98 boot disk on your first floppy disk.
If you already have a boot disk, then you only need one blank floppy disk.
You
MUST boot to DOS. If you follow my directions you will fix your problem in just minutes, like I did.
Now download "Dsrfix.zip" from here:
http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/files/dsrfix.zip
unzip these 4 files and copy them to the second floppy disk.
This file and instructions are provided by Dan Goodell, his very helpful site is here:
and more info is here:
Dan's help was the only one I found to fix my messed up new Dell Dimension's MBR (master boot record) on my disk drive. Because I had tried to repair and also reinstall Windows XP on my troubled PC, I had inadvertently changed the MBR of my PC, which stopped the Control-F11 feature from working again. I called Dell Tech Support to see if they can help me. To make a long story short, Dell could not help me at all.
Now lets fix your Control-F11.
Put the Windows 98 boot disk in your floppy drive (Drive A) and restart your PC, and from the Boot Menu select #2 Without CDROM support feature, as you do not need it, and you will boot up faster.
When you are at the A prompt, replace the Windows boot disk with the second floppy disk, the one you copied the four files from the Dsrfix.zip file.
1) Type:
mbrsaver /s
this will backup your existing MBR to "mbrsaver.bin" file to the floppy disk. Just a good idea in case something goes wrong and you can restore this MBR backup, by typing:
mbrsaver /r mbrsaver.bin
2) Next type:
mbrsaver /r dellmbr.bin
This will restore your MBR sector from the dellmbr.bin copy. You will be given a choice of which of the three parts of the sector you want to restore: the boot code, the Disk ID, and/or the partition table.
Do not overwrite your partition table! Normally, you should not need to overwrite your Disk ID, either. So answer 'yes', 'no', 'no' to MBRsaver's three prompts, then confirm your choices by answering 'yes' to the final prompt.
To make it easy and clear for you, here is what you will need to type:
boot code : Y
disk-id : N
partition table : N
write MBR sector now : Y
You will now see: MBR sector restored successfully
that's it my friend, you have done it.
Now remove the floppy disk, reboot your PC, and when you see the blue Dell logo at boot up, just keep the Control key pressed down and once a second tap the F11 key.
The restore page will now open up.
Congratulations, and good luck.
From John in Louisville, Colorado
I am a PC Consultant, and happy to help people in trouble.
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boppo
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July 6th, 2005 23:00
John,
will this work if you did a clean install but kept the pc restore partition?
johnusa
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July 7th, 2005 00:00
To: boppo
Yes, it will work.
The reason it will work is because your are restoring the MBR as if your PC just left the Dell factory.
From your question I gather that you rather restore your PC to the condition you first got your PC instead of the state it is now, which is a clean XP install. Am I right?
Good luck.
Message Edited by JohnUSA on 07-06-2005 11:45 PM
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boppo
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July 7th, 2005 00:00
I will keep the clean install but if I sell it I would like to have that option back. I hope it works cuz my girl friend will kill me if I turn it into a brick.
thanks.
johnusa
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July 7th, 2005 00:00
Regarding those users who don't have floppy drives, you can buy a USB external floppy drive from Dell, it is only about $25, you can buy it here:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=A0005199&Page=productlisting.aspx&spagenum=1&items_per_page=25&orderby=final_price&sortdirection=&image_flag=True&show_summary=True&category_id=5693&brandid=&mnfsku=&SearchType=&Pageb4Search=&ModelSelection=&iCompatid=&selectiontypeids=&l=en&c=us&cs=19&SubmitSearch=&servicetag=&reset=True&k=&mnf=&prst=&prEnd=&InStock=&refurbished=&fe=
Or, you need to find a PC (a friend or at work) that does have a floppy drive AND a CD burner.
Run the "boot98se.exe" file to create the floppy boot disk.
Copy all the files from this boot disk to a clean folder which you would call DosBoot.
Create an additional folder and call it DSRFIX, and copy the four files from "dsrfix.zip" into this folder.
Now burn all the files in the "DosBoot" directory on a CDR. Make sure you burn what is inside this directory only. Do not burn if you see DosBoot folder on the CD. You want to see ONLY all the boot files only, and the DSRFIX folder.
Make sure your PC Bios is setup properly to allow cd bootup.
Put this newly burned CD in your CD drive and reboot.
After booting, change to the DSRFIX folder on this same CD.
To change, type:
A:\ cd dsrfix (even though you are reading a CD the drive letter will be "A" because of the boot files)
Now follow my previous instructions to update your MBR.
Good luck.
Message Edited by JohnUSA on 07-06-2005 08:47 PM
Message Edited by JohnUSA on 07-06-2005 11:44 PM
13sinned
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August 2nd, 2005 01:00
i did almost similar with the once u mentioned except that i downloaded a WIN ME boot disk ISO then burned it to my CD. and these are the steps i did:
1. boot to DOS w/ CD support
2. initiate the DSR fix, since i have a CD support i accessed the files on my CD
3. i succesfully brought back the ctrl-F11 function
but the problem happend after the CTRL-F11:
after the short message on PBR descriptor 2.. done
win 98....
a box popped out with a header DELL PC Restore by Symantec and the contents says The Dell system recovery tool has detected an unsupported change in you master boot record.
The tool cannot run at this time.
Please call dell technical support assistance.
Caution: do not manually shut down your computer. CLick the FINISH button to reboot.
then after rebooting it hangs up on LOADING PBR FOR DESCRIPTOR 2... done
fyi, it's a inspiron 6000 recently bought last quarter.
TIA!
johnusa
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To: 13sinned
Please go to the URL: http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_other&message.id=239868
and ask Dan Goodell (user name: dg1261) the same quesion that you asked here. He may know about the error that you are experiencing. Goodluck.
13sinned
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August 3rd, 2005 14:00
i already sorted out the problem and i guess i was too excited at first by jumping easily to conclusions.
anyways, i used dan's way of directly launching dell's recovery program instead of going to the ctrl-F11 route where the system is too meticulous for allowing me to use the recovery system.
anyhow the only stumbling block i encountered was being to naive on understanding how dan created the procedure. in my case its abt having only 2 partitions instead as illustrated on his table of having 3 partitions. this is the modification that i did to fit my situation:
1.used ME boot disc image for CD loading.
2. loaded CTMOUSE
3. launched PTEDIT
4. modified only partition 1 and 2 as 07 and DB>0C. then set 0C as bootable (80)
5. reboot on DOS
6. restore ghost image
7. re-set partition type byte to its regular values.
this proves dan's findings as long as the partition that has the ghost image.
hobbes77
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October 7th, 2005 20:00
I just used your instructions to restore my Inspiron 6000 back to the factor image. Thank you
The only additional instruction I would add to yours would be to make sure that you burn the Win98SE image as a bootable iso onto the CD. Don't just copy the files, or else your computer will not boot from it.
Once again, thanks so much for these instructions.
hobbes
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October 15th, 2005 23:00
SUCCESS !!!! Well after much brain busting and GREAT help from this forum and especially my hero's
"JohnUSA and dg1261 " who are the greatest by the way... I have restored my master boot record.
I thought maybe I didn't have cd rom support with my dos boot cd , because when I typed "D" or "E" at the prompt I just got nothing, This is what I did after the prompt came up after adding " : " after the d .
[DR-DOS] A:\> I typed "D:".
[DR-DOS]D:\> I typed "cd dsrfix".
[DR-DOS]D:\DSRFIX> I typed "mbrsaver /r dellmbr.bin".
I didn't use the "MBR Saver feature". Then I just followed the directions as JohnUSA gave when the MBR Restore questions came up.Everything went as it should and it restored my previous Dell MBR. I tried the ctlr and f11 keys upon restarting and the Dell restore option was there. It is great knowing that this option is available again (since restoring with cd's is a pain !). Thanks again for the support and I hope this may help others who aren't too familar with dos as I am .
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October 16th, 2005 03:00
Glad to hear you finally got it sorted out. With few systems coming with floppy drives these days, more and more people will be resorting to bootable cds to facilitate repairs like this.