Happen to remember how to get to the service menu? I know I have to hold a button, or..something to that effect, and then push another button. Can't find that post for the life of me
At the very least, the text is clear and I'm not getting any flickering while watching video etc, so maybe that implies something. Need to know how to get to that darn menu >
To enter the service menu, turn the monitor off, hold down the menu button and the + button at the same time, and while you're holding them down, turn the monitor back on. The monitor will take a second longer to come on. Once on, wait a second and then press the - button and the service menu will pop up.
After you click the enter button you should see horrible banding on the white-grey gradient. If it looks ok then I think it is safe to say you got the new one. As for what you asked about the dead pixels. That is mainly just a looking at different full color screens and looking for a blank spot. Normally a dead pixel is painfully obvious, but the occasional one only shows up in certain colors. There are tests out there but I cant find my links right now.
Try that one too. I would suggest dloading any and all gradient testing programs you can find. I originally posted that mine seemed almost non existent. Then after playing games and web surfing for a day or two it became more and more evident. I doubt it got worse, I just started really noticing. If you play WoW check out the skiesin stormwind. It looks realy really there on mine.
Good luck, I hope you got a fixed one, or a non defective one (if they actualy actually).
We were hoping that ChrisM had it wrong and the factory started shipping them already. It's looking like that isn't the case unfortunatly, oh well. I'm on ChrisM's list now I believe, so all is well.
I need to rework my desk setup. My eyes are seriously bleeding. There is no way to describe in words just how huge this thing is. It's massive.
About the pixel crawling, it seems to only occur when I play non native resolution vids in media player classic. I'll test out VLC once I can get it to go away (Have to turn it off and wait a minute). If this is still true of the monitor when I get a fixed version, I'm not sure I can keep it, as this "Dot Crawl" (best way I can describe it) is getting annoying on the eyes
For now I'm going to give dell the benefit of the doubt, and assume that the problems it has are all due to the Farouj chip (Scaling the video up while playing, and then fudging up and trying to scale 1680x1050 signal to 1680x1050 when I exit out of the video. This makes sense in theory)
Update: Tested in VLC, same thing occured. So I can pretty much without a doubt say that this monitor has the old firmware. Looks like the guy on the other thread was full of it. Unless he got the only revised firmware monitor that they shipped , which is doubtfull.
I'm praying that when I get the model with the new firmware, this problem will be solved.
I just wanted to say that after much deliberation I ordered, or I should say as a gift someone ordered for me, the 2007WFP. I realize it probably won't be the fixed version, but I'll let everyone know what my results are when I recieve it.
I was the one deciding between the 2007WFP and the LG L203WT(X). It seemed, that although the LG had a higher contrast ratio and response rate, the Dell had a better image quality and overall performance (except of course for the banding). Plus I heard the LG had a banding issue too and that LG so far hasn't done much to fix it.
I'm really excited to say the least, I'm currently using a Dell E151FP with a response rate of 35ms!! I'm guessing the 2007WFP is going to look gigantic!
Upon checking it's LPL WSXGA LM201W01 and I don't see anything referring to a revision number or anything like that. So I think it's safe to assume that this isn't a monitor with the new firmware. (Can't test DVI right now as my dad and his DVI computer are busy -_-, but over VGA I see absolutely no banding, but that is normal I guess). I have however come across another problem; after a bit of use, the pixels start to shake, I believe the term for this is pixel jitter? Not sure, but it looks like the entire monitor is swimming. Not sure if this is my graphics card or not. Oh and there is one dead pixel, which isn't bad for a monitor of this size. Here's to hoping that the fixed model I recieve doesn't have any
If there is some sub-service menu, other than the menu I'm already on, that shows revision/firmware number, then feel free to tell me about it, but at this point I've got to assume that this has the old firmware.
Are you guys sure there is no banding in VGA mode? I have banding in both VGA and DVI mode. although it is far far worse in DVI mode. One + I just found out about this monitor tho..... picture in picture. I was not aware that it had that feature. Man it is nice playing WoW and watching TV on my monitor. LCD phreak the revision # is on the back on a sticker above the serial number. Mine is A00
if your talking about nokia monitor test, it didnt show any banding on my monitor either, i think the gradient is to short to really lnotice banding. try using "checkmon" it has full screen gradient in every color. IT WILL be there, you have to look hard, but you will see iddy biddy lines every 2 mm or so, and if you cant see it then you are blind. absolutely no new monitors have been sent out yet, dont you think if they did they would want us to know so everyone would stop freaking out?
The guy on the other thread that when he accessed a menu, it had a differant revision number than the A00 it said on the back. Mine too says A00 on the back, but I wanted to see what the guy was talking about
And yes, I am 100% positive that there is no banding what-so-ever in VGA mode. Tested it using gradlin, and the one that switches colors at every mouse click. Perfectly smooth gradients. Like I said, the only problem at this point (for me) is the pixel swimming that occurs all-over the monitor after watching a video at a lower than native resolution, and then switching it back afterwards. When I get the monitor with the firmware revision, I'm hoping that particular problem will be gone. My only other concern at this point is..how do I listen to sound when this monitor only has a video in and no audio? Should have had an audio-in, and then an audio-out (headphone plugin) at the least. I guess I need to hook it to a stereo or something =/.
So, in review, I don't have the blurry text, or the flicker, but I have the new problem of this "Swimming" after viewing non-native resolution videos.
@LCDPhreak wrote:
The guy on the other thread that when he accessed a menu, it had a differant revision number than the A00 it said on the back. Mine too says A00 on the back, but I wanted to see what the guy was talking about
And yes, I am 100% positive that there is no banding what-so-ever in VGA mode. Tested it using gradlin, and the one that switches colors at every mouse click. Perfectly smooth gradients. Like I said, the only problem at this point (for me) is the pixel swimming that occurs all-over the monitor after watching a video at a lower than native resolution, and then switching it back afterwards. When I get the monitor with the firmware revision, I'm hoping that particular problem will be gone. My only other concern at this point is..how do I listen to sound when this monitor only has a video in and no audio? Should have had an audio-in, and then an audio-out (headphone plugin) at the least. I guess I need to hook it to a stereo or something =/.
So, in review, I don't have the blurry text, or the flicker, but I have the new problem of this "Swimming" after viewing non-native resolution videos.
Message Edited by LCDPhreak on 05-30-200610:14 PM
To me that sounds like something to do with the up-scaling you talked about, but I'm no expert, just drawing conclusions based upon what I read. And yes, you'll need external speakers of some kind with this monitor. Personally I didn't want a monitor with any audio, monitor speakers are always tinny and take up extra space and there is a headphone jack on my Altec Lansing computer speakers.
For this particular monitor, with all of it's multimedia functions, to not be able to hear the audio of any Composite/S-Video connected devices is a little harsh. For the xbox atleast, the cord for audio is so short, it couldn't possibly reach a stereo jack on a boombox etc, so that's a no go.
And there is no banding (over VGA remember) that my 15/15 vision can discern. Banding over DVI obviously, no need to tell you that.
And I figured out that by "Auto-Adjusting" the monitor through the menu that I could stop the swimming, untill the next video/stopping of the video. This is unacceptable so here's to hoping that it's the Farouj scaler doing it and that the new firmware will resolve it
LCDPhreak
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At the very least, the text is clear and I'm not getting any flickering while watching video etc, so maybe that implies something. Need to know how to get to that darn menu >
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jtfinke
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LCDPhreak
try this website
http://www.themillbank.com/
After you click the enter button you should see horrible banding on the white-grey gradient. If it looks ok then I think it is safe to say you got the new one. As for what you asked about the dead pixels. That is mainly just a looking at different full color screens and looking for a blank spot. Normally a dead pixel is painfully obvious, but the occasional one only shows up in certain colors. There are tests out there but I cant find my links right now.
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for banding: gradlin-v0.2-fs.exe or gradlin-v0.3-mix-fs.exe
LCDPhreak
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I need to rework my desk setup. My eyes are seriously bleeding. There is no way to describe in words just how huge this thing is. It's massive.
About the pixel crawling, it seems to only occur when I play non native resolution vids in media player classic. I'll test out VLC once I can get it to go away (Have to turn it off and wait a minute). If this is still true of the monitor when I get a fixed version, I'm not sure I can keep it, as this "Dot Crawl" (best way I can describe it) is getting annoying on the eyes
For now I'm going to give dell the benefit of the doubt, and assume that the problems it has are all due to the Farouj chip (Scaling the video up while playing, and then fudging up and trying to scale 1680x1050 signal to 1680x1050 when I exit out of the video. This makes sense in theory)
Update: Tested in VLC, same thing occured. So I can pretty much without a doubt say that this monitor has the old firmware. Looks like the guy on the other thread was full of it. Unless he got the only revised firmware monitor that they shipped , which is doubtfull.
I'm praying that when I get the model with the new firmware, this problem will be solved.
Message Edited by LCDPhreak on 05-30-200608:50 PM
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All currently selling ones will have to be exchanged.
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I was the one deciding between the 2007WFP and the LG L203WT(X). It seemed, that although the LG had a higher contrast ratio and response rate, the Dell had a better image quality and overall performance (except of course for the banding). Plus I heard the LG had a banding issue too and that LG so far hasn't done much to fix it.
I'm really excited to say the least, I'm currently using a Dell E151FP with a response rate of 35ms!! I'm guessing the 2007WFP is going to look gigantic!
Message Edited by XPS Crazy on 05-30-200610:06 PM
LCDPhreak
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If there is some sub-service menu, other than the menu I'm already on, that shows revision/firmware number, then feel free to tell me about it, but at this point I've got to assume that this has the old firmware.
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LCDPhreak ... and others
Are you guys sure there is no banding in VGA mode? I have banding in both VGA and DVI mode. although it is far far worse in DVI mode. One + I just found out about this monitor tho..... picture in picture. I was not aware that it had that feature. Man it is nice playing WoW and watching TV on my monitor. LCD phreak the revision # is on the back on a sticker above the serial number. Mine is A00
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And yes, I am 100% positive that there is no banding what-so-ever in VGA mode. Tested it using gradlin, and the one that switches colors at every mouse click. Perfectly smooth gradients. Like I said, the only problem at this point (for me) is the pixel swimming that occurs all-over the monitor after watching a video at a lower than native resolution, and then switching it back afterwards. When I get the monitor with the firmware revision, I'm hoping that particular problem will be gone. My only other concern at this point is..how do I listen to sound when this monitor only has a video in and no audio? Should have had an audio-in, and then an audio-out (headphone plugin) at the least. I guess I need to hook it to a stereo or something =/.
So, in review, I don't have the blurry text, or the flicker, but I have the new problem of this "Swimming" after viewing non-native resolution videos.
Message Edited by LCDPhreak on 05-30-200610:14 PM
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To me that sounds like something to do with the up-scaling you talked about, but I'm no expert, just drawing conclusions based upon what I read. And yes, you'll need external speakers of some kind with this monitor. Personally I didn't want a monitor with any audio, monitor speakers are always tinny and take up extra space and there is a headphone jack on my Altec Lansing computer speakers.
Message Edited by XPS Crazy on 05-30-200610:29 PM
LCDPhreak
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And there is no banding (over VGA remember) that my 15/15 vision can discern. Banding over DVI obviously, no need to tell you that.
And I figured out that by "Auto-Adjusting" the monitor through the menu that I could stop the swimming, untill the next video/stopping of the video. This is unacceptable so here's to hoping that it's the Farouj scaler doing it and that the new firmware will resolve it