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November 3rd, 2009 10:00
Anyone using the Archive Module???
Any NetWorker users out there using the Archive Module?
(For those that haven't looked at what it does - here's an excerpt from one of the manuals)
The archive process captures files or directories as they exist at a specific time, and writes the data to archive storage volumes, which are not automatically recycled. After the archive process completes, you can delete (groom) the original files from the disk to conserve space. Archive save sets are similar to backup save sets. The main difference is that archive save sets have no expiration date. By default, the archive backup level is always set to full. Archive data must be written to separate pools. Browse and retention policies do not apply to archive data.
- Files that have been archived can be deleted from the primary disk storage to make space for newer files and retained in archive volumes for quick retrieval
- Archived data is never subject to automatic recycling, so it cannot be overwritten accidentally



ecarter11
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November 3rd, 2009 11:00
A quick supplement... I found this old press article on thie module:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1994_Dec_19/ai_15993944/
One for the Archives... Pun intended.
Hakan_Engman
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November 4th, 2009 07:00
Well have used it but not very freqent. Used it to archive user homedirectories when they left the firm.
Even thoug it's doable, I belive that the hard part is to name the archive in a searchable manner.
Maskerading the saveset to the project name was one that worked, in another case we used a external db to keep track or corrolate the
project with the archivedata.
You very seldom remember the servername that hosted your home directory 6 years ago.
Best regards
Håkan Engman
Robinson2
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November 10th, 2009 02:00
I have been using the NetWorker archive module - and is still using it.
I'd really appreciate some enhancements for this module as I can see we get more and more requests for such functionality.
Main problems today:
* scheduling
* error control
* monitoring
* reporting
Other:
* searchability (nsrinfo could do better)
* browseable recoveries
* tagging of archieves to maintain archives in an easy manner when clients are removed or renamed.
(an archive index, which is not related to the archiveing client itself - when client is removed/renamed)
* simple HSM functionality (some competitors have this, and the customers remind us about it)
Siobhan1
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March 22nd, 2010 03:00
Yep. Ah the days when Archiving was simple, and not mixed up with HSM!
Purely for the backup and delete capability with a comment.
What is an Archive? It is just that, IMNSHO. A Backup that optionally deletes the original data afterwards and has an easy way to find it. Add that to NetWorker savesets, and you can retire NetWorker archiving.
HSM? Bah! Won't work until someone creates a file system that goes to pooh because you have billions of objects which are just stubs, or you have a single name space that can with files having moved to another device, but still look like they were where they were.
ecarter11
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March 22nd, 2010 15:00
Hello Siobhan!
Long time no talk. Thanks for all the feedback today. We've been having a few back/forths on the archiving module again this week so your comments are timely. There's so little chatter about NetWorker Archive in general that we tend to just let it stay as is. HSM? Don't get us started
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BTW - are you making it to EMC World this year?
Siobhan1
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March 28th, 2010 21:00
Well you don't call! I don't get any flowers... nothing! :-)
Biggest frustration on the Archive module? For archive requests we should be able to set hours when it can be automatically responded to. This should be seperated on recovers and archives. You might want to do that on the pool.
I'm trying to get there, but HP is not exactly keen on us going to EMC world. :-(
Hakan_Engman
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March 29th, 2010 23:00
Hi Eric,
Please do not leave it as is, usage is probably a result of the functionality...
Why not combine probe backup technology with the archive module.
Application dump/export data to a directory, NetWorker archive it of the disk "automagically".
Maybe this is a lack of knowledge, but would it be possible to interface NetWorker with the Centera ?
(Directly. Change the behaviour of the NSRMMD, connect it to the Centera. SSID for the archive in
the mediadb would point to a hash in a centera.)
Cheers,
Hakan
Siobhan1
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March 30th, 2010 15:00
That's a damn good idea! I actually needed the integration with Centera recently.
ecarter11
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April 1st, 2010 11:00
Yes - very good idea. Thanks Hakan, Thanks Siobhan. Keep-em coming.