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August 29th, 2007 09:00

RAID 5 issues HELP! PERC 3/di Adaptec Controller

Hi guys,
 
Just started a new job and been given a little project.
 
I would be grateful for some advice and tips
 
We have a dell poweredge 4600 with PERC 3/Di and Adaptec Controller..
it is configured in RAID 5 with 5 Disks and one Hot Spare.
 
it is running windows 2003 server Standard with SP1. And Exchange 2003
 
Now this server is being used a lot and the space is running out fast.
What i need to do is add a disk to the array without having to rebuild the array or loose any data.
The disk will be used to increase space on the D partition( Mail box store partition)
 
I have read that this is possible on some new controllers. Can any of you guys let me know if my controller will allow this. and if so how easy/difficult is it to do?. Have any of you done this before? What sort of issues am i likely to come across?
 
any links to guides or step by step procedures would be very helpful
 
Thanks
 
H
 
 
 
 

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August 29th, 2007 17:00

Hi Hits83,
 
  Ok first off backup everything and review the backup logs to make sure all the files were actually backed up. That covers the data loss portion and is the most important step.
 
  Next, you collect the controller logs (DSET report) and review them for any medium errors, ask server support for assistance if medium errors or smart errors are found, you want to make sure you have a good foundation prior to doing the reconfiguration.
 
  Now that you have a good array with no bad drives or other problems, you'll want to run F/W updates and driver updates (hard drives, RAID controller, System BIOS, System ESM)
 
  Finally you're ready to reconstruct your RAID 5 from 5 drives to 6 or more drives. You'll need drive carriers and compatible drives. These can be ordered from Dell Sales. You should have two available drive slots, the things in the empty bays look like they're carriers, but they are just drive blanks for airflow management. It does no good to order larger drives, the extra capacity will be unused.
 
  The previous will get you prepared to proceed, there are tutorials and manuals for most of your tasks, and many many postings where we have walked customers through the process, please spend some time reading and using the search feature. As well as the tutorials and white papers we have stickyed.
 
Regards,
Dell-GaryS
Dell-GaryS

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August 30th, 2007 07:00

Hi,
 
Thanks for the advice. I have spoke with dell and they go its best to use Dell Open Manage Server Admin to do this task.
 
I have had a look but cannot seem to find any guides or whitepapers which give a walkthrough
 
Is there any chance you know any links/ documents or whitepapers which will give me some more information on what steps i need to take
 
Thanks
 
 

7 Posts

August 30th, 2007 13:00

I found a video showing how to re config the array on the dell site
 
i should not need to use disk part should i? does the next disk not become un allocated space and then you just extend the current volume?
 
I know you cant extend the C: volume but you can extend other partions?
 
 

777 Posts

August 30th, 2007 13:00

manuals for the server administrator
manuals for the Array Manager
< ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed from this post by Dell>
 
See the walkthroughs at the top of this forum page for how to use diskpart to extend the partition.
 
  Do you have a test machine to practice on?
 
You actually perform the change by selecting the reconfiguration option and select the new drives you're adding, make sure it still says RAID 5 and commit the change. Plan on doing this over the weekend, the reconfiguration will need a good chunk of the disk I/O and will cause performance slowdown till it's done, which may be half a day or more.
 
Good luck,
Dell-GaryS
 
 
 
 

777 Posts

August 30th, 2007 13:00

Yes you have it right, I was just covering the bases.

777 Posts

August 30th, 2007 14:00

From the array manager manual:

"When Array Manager creates a partition on a basic disk, Array Manager checks whether the partition is the last one on the disk, and then reserves 1MB at the end of the disk for future upgrade needs. When you upgrade from basic to dynamic, the partition needs to align with the cylinder boundary, which may result in a cylinder size (usually 7.8MB) that is left on the disk. This cylinder size is displayed as unallocated disk space.

Warning! After you upgrade a basic disk to a dynamic disk, you will not be able to revert back to a basic disk until you first delete all the dynamic volumes on the disk. Then you can use the Revert to Basic Disk command to revert the disk back to a basic disk. Make sure to back up your data in this scenario before deleting any volumes, or your data will be lost!"

  So you lose the 1MB at the end of the basic disk that allows you to make changes like adding drives to the volume. Ok so now we know, you will not be able to meet your stated objectives, the increase in storage will require a deletion of the array and a rebuild of the server. Time to go back to the manager and lay out the options.

1) add two drives to the array, requiring a reinstall of the O/S and restore from backup, and about 1 day of down time.

2) add two drives as a RAID 1 (perhaps 300 GB drives)

3) get a 2nd server build it up and move the data to it, then do the upgrades to the primary, and when done, move the data back.

4) option I did not think of.

Regards,

Dell-GaryS

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August 30th, 2007 14:00

I was just looking at the current situation and you are right i think i will have to use diskpart..
 
Its un usual as the extend volume is greyed out i have never come accross this before :s
 
where can i find a walkthrough for disk part.
 
you said its at the top of the forum page but i cant see it ?
 
 

777 Posts

August 30th, 2007 14:00

7 Posts

August 30th, 2007 14:00

is expart.exe the same as diskpart.exe
 
im a little confused as i wont be able to use this as the disks are dynamic and it says they should be basic.
 
i always thought that becuase they were dynaic i could just increase the volume but that option is greyed out?
 
any ideas why this might be greyed out?


Message Edited by Hits83 on 08-30-2007 10:23 AM
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