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April 8th, 2014 12:00
best disk setup
Hi,
I just bought a MD3200 with a MD1200. Inside are 22 disks of 4TB near line sas.
Now i'm wondering which setup is the best for my purpose. I need storage capacity between 50TB and 60TB for video storage. The video editing will not be done on the storage, so performance is not the biggest issue. More important is safety of the data and usable space.
So I think of making a setup with all the 22 disks in the disk pool (57,3TB usable space) and make 1 virtual disk with 90% of the disk space in the pool. So 10% is"free capacity" for rebuild purpose. This gives me a 51,5TB disk.
My questions are:
- Is it wise to create such a large disk pool and large virtual disk. Isn't the rebuild time to long?
- Is it less risky to create 1 disk pool wit 2 virtual disks, or 2 disk pools and 2 virtual disks?
- will this 10% free capacity be used for rebuilding when the virtual disk is full?
- is 10% free capacity enough? Do I need more or can I take less?
And a totally different idea: make in de MD3200 4 disk groups with 5 disks in raid5, make 4 disks and make put these together in Server 2012 in Microsoft Disk Management.
I hope somebody can give me some hints for the best setup
thnx, Pieter



DELL-Sam L
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April 9th, 2014 09:00
Hello Pieter,
- Is it wise to create such a large disk pool and large virtual disk. With DDP you can have a larger number of drives and it doesn’t affect the performance as much as a traditional raid as all drives are being used & none are idle. Isn't the rebuild time to long? No the rebuild times will be faster than traditional raid. So in your setup of 4TB drives in a traditional raid your rebuild time would be more than 4+ days as with using DDP your rebuild time is on average less than half so it should take no more than 2 days, & could be done in 1 day.
- Is it less risky to create 1 disk pool wit 2 virtual disks, or 2 disk pools and 2 virtual disks? You can create 1 DDP & have 2 virtual disk in the same pool, & the risk is about the same as having 2 virtual disks in the same traditional raid array. The difference is with traditional raid when you have 2 virtual disk in the same group you have a performance hit & longer rebuild times, but in DDP that is not the case as rebuild times are faster and performance is better as well.
- will this 10% free capacity be used for rebuilding when the virtual disk is full? No the 10% is not used for rebuild. The 10% is the DDP reserve which is 10% of each physical disk in the pool. The usable space on any disk is the available space, minus the DDP reserve. Based on threshold settings, you will receive a warning as you encroach on the reserve.
- is 10% free capacity enough? Do I need more or can I take less? You need to have a minimum of 10% free space. If you have more space available then than the 10% then you can add more to the reserve but not less than 10% for the reserved.
Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Dev Mgr
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April 9th, 2014 11:00
Definitely avoid raid 5 with 4TB drives. The rebuild time with 4TB (at least on a fixed parity based raid set) will be terrible, so raid 6 (double parity) is the only way to go. The reason is that the chance of a 2nd drive having a glitch during the 2+ day rebuild is not unrealistic, so the 2nd parity from raid 6 ensures a much higher long-term uptime for your data.
Have you considered 2 x 11-disk raid 6?
The rebuild on a dynamic disk pool is supposed to be faster than on traditional raid, but I've never really had a chance to compare them to see if this is true or not (or how much faster it is). With DDP I believe it only rebuilds that section that contains data, so on an empty diskpool the rebuild would definitely be faster, but once you're a year down the road and have a lot of data on the unit, I don't know what kind of difference in rebuild time you'd see.
Note: raid is not a substitute for a backup, so still be sure to have a backup solution in place.
Data rule: Your data is only as important as the effort you put into backing it up (I cannot claim this to be my own, but don't remember the co-worker's name that told me this (and no telling where he got it)).
pieterw
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April 10th, 2014 07:00
Hi,
Thnx for your remarks and advise.
I also called Dell and I made the following config:
1 disk pool of all 22 4TB disks (eff 57,3TB)
2 virtual disks of 26TB
Reserved for rebuilding 5,3TB
2x RAID 6 or 2 disk pools with 11 disks takes a lot of diskspace.
thnx Pieter