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August 1st, 2017 11:00
Pool Drive Failure
Unity 500F Storage Array.
Pool1 12+1 (14 SSD disks drives).
Can I lose more than one disk drive at the same time in the Pool without losing any data?


rmc_dell
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August 1st, 2017 13:00
The Pool is a Dynamic Pool.
paranoidandroi1
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August 2nd, 2017 00:00
Hi,
That would also be true for traditionnal pools.
For both pool types, probability is higher with 12+1 than 4+1. But two drives of the same raid set means DU, or worst DL if disks wont spin up again.
For dynamic pools, if the a RAID5 4+1 choice means a DU when 2 disks amongst 200 (for example) fail at the same time, that is a risky option.
EnriquePereira
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August 29th, 2017 01:00
I have experience with VNX, and always prefer to use raid 4+1 in traditional pools. A pool with 20 disks would have 4 internal raids, so it could be possible to loose more than one drive as loong as they belong to different raid group.
But now I am planning to by a 450F with 20 1,6TB ssd, and I am not sure what configuration select:
- 1 dynamic pool with 20 disks (23,5 TB)
- 2 dynamic pools with 10 disks (21,7TB)
I am worried about the fact of loosing more than one drive at the same time.
Rainer_EMC
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September 1st, 2017 06:00
a LUN isnt restricted to one raidgroup
if you want to be protected against dual drive failue than you should use RAID6
EnriquePereira
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September 1st, 2017 08:00
The problem for raid6 will be the performance. It is not recommended.
That is the reason for me to consider 2 different pools.
The question is that if I create a traditional pool with 20 disks, I can choose raid5 4+1 and could (potentially) tolerate 4 failed disks. With dynamic pool, it internally create one isolation domain every 64 disks, so for me it seems more probable 2 failures in 64 disks thant 2 failures in 5 disks.
I suppose that EMC should have a good explanation for doing this, but I cannot find it. Even xtreamio uses somethink like raid 6.