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October 22nd, 2021 01:00

High temperature vostro 14 5410

Hi, i have high temperature under load with my new vostro 14 5410 i5 10300h and mx450. It start from 80 and rise to 92 under gaming. High temp cause thermal throttling, and slow down my cpu under 500Mhz.

I found dell power managment programm and set maximum perfomance mod. With it cooler spinnig faster, and im happy, but full speed fan only then 92c heating reached and laptop gets very hot!

Dell, On 11gen processors no  undervolt options and no fan rpm options!!! why your engeners want to roast me? I also cant disable hyperthreading and change core count in bios. despite the fact that bios has that settings. It just doesn't work when I save the bios. 

I see 2 options for solving this problem:

1. Give people access to the fan curve so that we can customize it ourselves. I'm sure you already have access to it, because the performance modes in the dell power manager change it.

2.Release a BIOS update, in which set the maximum speed of the cooler at a temperature of 75-80c in high perfomance mode.

92c its critical temperature and may cause laptop damage. Its realy uncomfortable to touch laptop case. Why for 1000$ laptop i cant change any settings?? Im also changed thermal paste and win only 1-2c temp reduction. I'm desperate. I contacted the person who did DellFanManagement. He said that Dell has changed the access to the fan settings in their latest laptops and he cannot help me. But his application is the first that at least showed rpm of the fan.

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October 23rd, 2021 13:00

Set the power plan to balanced (or cool if available) and reduce the load to something the system can handle.

You have a mid-range CPU, a very low end GPU and a system designed largely around one purpose:  to be as inexpensive as possible.  It will not handle running at maximum performance and it will not handle anything but the most casual gaming levels.

If the system is running McAfee, remove it and use Windows Defender -- and disable as many of the resident Dell services as possible.  These are also resource-intensive.

You have to shed load to match the design capability of the system.

 

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October 22nd, 2021 11:00

Setting the system for "maximum performance" is exactly what you do not want to do -- the system cannot handle the thermal load.

You have two options:  set the system for a more balanced power profile (turbo boost/max performance OFF), and combine that with reducing your gaming settings.

This is a budget business notebook - it is in no way suited to gaming.  

 

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October 23rd, 2021 02:00

I disagree with you. The hardware allows me to play, and the temperature could be lower if the cooler was spinning at full speed. In other modes, the power limit behaves so aggressively that it drops the processor speed to 600mhz, which is unacceptable. If dell had increased the fan speed, I would have had no problems with overheating and throttling. Especially since the laptop can turn the coolers faster. 

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October 23rd, 2021 04:00

See above.  That's not what the system was designed to do.

A Hyundai Elantra is designed to carry five passengers.  So does a Ford F150.  
Try towing a 5,000 pound trailer behind them and you'll see that one is designed for the job, and the other will fail at the task.

You have the Elantra.  For gaming, you need something more like an F150.

 

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October 23rd, 2021 09:00

Your cars have different engines, I'm talking about the same cars, only on one of them, the speed limit is 50km / h. Or rather, not a direct limitation, but an automatic transmission, which is incorrectly tuned and does not switch above the 3rd gear, but when it overheats, it switches to the first. Anyway, I understand that the laptop is not a gaming one, but I am faced with high heat, and not with insufficient performance. It is enough to write the obvious things, it is better to suggest what to do with the fan limitation.

December 17th, 2021 05:00

 

I am getting similar kind of the issue. In my case, I am just using the MS Remote Desktop, MS Teams, Skype and still the system is reaching at 67-70 C temprature. Even when the Processor temp is around 45-50 C the fans stops working, both for Optimized and Cool thermal profile, even the Cool thermal profile is hotter than the Optimized. The keyboard area gets all heated up and after a hour or so it's very uncomfortable to work.

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