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March 31st, 2007 22:00

Cannot install software, Vista not compatible.

I have not been able to install anything new on this new laptop because Vista is not recognized. I can't even view several websites because it refuses to recognize Vista. What can be done? This is ridiculous to have a brand new system and can't even view half of what is on the internet. I am thoroughly discusted with VISTA.

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April 1st, 2007 04:00

Could you explain what you mean by "Vista is not recognized"? Recognized (or not) by what? Please give the exact error message(s) and examples of what programs or websites are giving difficulty. Val

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April 1st, 2007 13:00

Firstly, thank you very much for the reply and help.:smileyhappy:
 
The most recent rejection was from Spiegel catalog site. It stated my computer configuration was not supported and then it proceeded to give instructions as to how to fix it by choosing your Windows system (3.1, 95, 98, XP, etc), but Vista is not on it. It recommends you go to the Windows site and upgrade. So that was no help, because I have the latest & greatest Windows!
 
I also am unable to install Family Tree Maker, World Atlas Interactive or others that have on my desktop. It could be me I guess, but I don't think so.

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April 1st, 2007 16:00

No, it isn't you, it's a vista problem. Nothing works with it. You could try 'compatibility mode' but that doesn't always work either. I visited the local computer shop to buy a good modem to replace the poor performing modem in a friends new vista machine. That's when I found out that there are no vista drivers for Lucent modems. I talked to one of the techs while I was there. This shop custom builds computers and he said they are telling all their customers to avoid vista and stay with XP due to the lack of driver support and compatibility issues. 

pennylu wrote:
Firstly, thank you very much for the reply and help.:smileyhappy:
 
The most recent rejection was from Spiegel catalog site. It stated my computer configuration was not supported and then it proceeded to give instructions as to how to fix it by choosing your Windows system (3.1, 95, 98, XP, etc), but Vista is not on it. It recommends you go to the Windows site and upgrade. So that was no help, because I have the latest & greatest Windows!
 
I also am unable to install Family Tree Maker, World Atlas Interactive or others that have on my desktop. It could be me I guess, but I don't think so.



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April 1st, 2007 17:00

It appears to be a problem with third party apps, not Vista. I have installed everything I had on my XP machine, except Zone Alarm, on my Vista Home Premium. No special modes, no special fixes. Don't blame Vista, blame third party manufacturers that haven't bothered to update their software. Vista has been available to third party companies for quite a while. There is no excuse for them to have dropped the ball.

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April 1st, 2007 18:00

That is strange every web site I have visited works with Vista ( well actually IE7 ) if it doesn't that is the web sites problem. If software doesn't work with Vista it is the software and not Vista. Gee get a clue. Windows Vista has a very good driver base built in but there is no way they could have all drivers for every device known to man. Blame Lucent for the lack of drivers.
 
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Message Edited by pcgeek11 on 04-01-2007 02:21 PM

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April 1st, 2007 19:00

Thank you very much!!!!! I had been told that as well. But what do you do when it's all they will put on a new system?
 
Thanks again startiger! :smileywink:

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April 1st, 2007 19:00

OK I take your word for it! I blame 3rd party apps. I have gone to some of their websites and asked for assistance in installing their product. But so far no one has replied. Hopefully they will soon get their stuff up-to-snuff!
 
Thank you for the reply.

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April 1st, 2007 19:00

pcgeek11    I do have a "clue" as you kindly put it..only a clue. Even a pcgeek had to start somewhere and wasn't born knowing all. The only thing I know for certain is what I stated in my original message.
As for yours opening every site, that's wonderful for you. I have not had that luxury yet. Perhaps the 3rd party applications will soon get onto the Vista wagon.
 
 

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April 2nd, 2007 15:00



mwfanelli2 wrote:
It appears to be a problem with third party apps, not Vista. I have installed everything I had on my XP machine, except Zone Alarm, on my Vista Home Premium. No special modes, no special fixes. Don't blame Vista, blame third party manufacturers that haven't bothered to update their software. Vista has been available to third party companies for quite a while. There is no excuse for them to have dropped the ball.

Microsoft is not blameless. They didn't make vista backward compatible with previous software and hardware drivers. ...And tell me why any hardware manufacturer or software company will be in a hurry to write updated drivers at their expense and provide that driver for free to fix their apps to work with vista when they can just force you to buy all new hardware and software? There is no excuse for microsoft when nothing works with a new operating system that they had five years to develop. Windows XP worked good when it came out and it was backward compatible with windows 95 software. It even ran some win 3.1 era software.

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April 3rd, 2007 02:00

Quote:  There is no excuse for microsoft when nothing works with a new operating system that they had five years to develop Unquote.
 
This is just a knee jerk bogus statement if I have ever read one. Well MOST THINGS do work, like about 75 - 80 percent off all the applications and software.
 
Quote: Windows XP worked good when it came out and it was backward compatible with windows 95 software. It even ran some win 3.1 era software. Unquote.
 
I find that the change from WinXP to Vista is on par with going from Win98 - WinXP. Vista does have a compatability mode to allow even more applications to work. I have even had numerous WinXP drivers work in Vista...
 
The hardware manufacturers cannot force you to buy anything. Stick with XP if that is what you want to do, but Vista is a fine OS with loads of potential for the future.
 
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April 3rd, 2007 12:00



pcgeek11 wrote:
Quote:  There is no excuse for microsoft when nothing works with a new operating system that they had five years to develop Unquote.
 
This is just a knee jerk bogus statement if I have ever read one. Well MOST THINGS do work, like about 75 - 80 percent off all the applications and software.
 
Quote: Windows XP worked good when it came out and it was backward compatible with windows 95 software. It even ran some win 3.1 era software. Unquote.
 
I find that the change from WinXP to Vista is on par with going from Win98 - WinXP. Vista does have a compatability mode to allow even more applications to work. I have even had numerous WinXP drivers work in Vista...
 
The hardware manufacturers cannot force you to buy anything. Stick with XP if that is what you want to do, but Vista is a fine OS with loads of potential for the future.
 
pcgeek11


It is not a "knee jerk " statement. It is experience. I had nothing but total frustration with my new vista computer. I tried to get it to work reliably for a month before installing XP so I would have a functional machine that didn't constantly lock up and blue screen.
 What is so "bogus" about expecting a product that I pay for to work out of the box 100% of the time? You are telling me that vista only works with 75 to 80 % of applications. Maybe that level of failure is acceptable to you but when I buy a product I expect 100% function. Would you be happy with a new car that only started and ran 75 to 80% of the time? Yes, hardware manufacturers can force people to buy new hardware if they want it to work with a vista machine. All they have to do is not write vista drivers for their previous products. I have talked to the technicians in two of the local computer shops and they are telling me the only good thing about vista is that it will make them lots of money fixing vista problems. They are already doing good business installing XP on customers new machines that were shipped with vista. ...I did failure analysis and quality control for a major electronics manufacturer for 26 years and the level of failure I have seen with vista would not have been acceptable to my employer. A company with the resources of microsoft, given five years to complete this project, should have been able to ship a product that was at least ready for the general public. From what I have been reading, microsoft is fast tracking service pack 1 for vista because they have a lot of problems to fix. SP1 includes a rewrite of the vista kernal, that tells me they didn't get it right the first time so they have to do it over.  By the time they get vista patched and functional the way it should be, it will be replaced by the next version of windows. (Vienna) in 2009.     

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