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March 19th, 2007 17:00

Clean install or upgrade?

Just received my "Express" upgrade CD's. When I finally get around to it after checking my 3rd party software, is a clean install better or the upgrade?
 
In my experience with older OS's the clean install works best because it gets rid of all the digital dustbunnies. Reading the posts I see that a clean install is possible from the express upgrade disk. Does anyone have a step by step if this procedure to save others from the pain?
 
Another question... With a clean install from that disk, is it a vanilla copy of Vista the same as purchasing a retail copy or does this disk also install all the apps that came with the PC when it had XP Media Center on it?
 
Any info appreciated.
 
Thanks,
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  • Rebel9

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    Posted March 19th, 2007 17:00

    CLEAN!!! CLEAN!!!!
     
     
    As for the apps & drivers, they are not on the Vista disk. They are on the other DVD that comes with the Express Upgrade.
  • snowshine

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    Posted March 19th, 2007 17:00

    Rebel9 When you do this clean install windows vista with upgrade [double upgrade] can you use the Dells upgrade assistant after the clean upgrade to upgrade the drivers? I ask this because the Dell's express upgrade advices first to use the upgrade assistant to start the upgrade procedure. However if one to follow Paul Thurrott's method during the formet stage of the hard-drive all will be erased? I hope you understand what I mean? Can you shed some light on it? Thanks Snow. Dimension 9200
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  • GioAguilar

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    Posted March 19th, 2007 17:00

    I wll ALWAYS say CLEAN!!!!! It's better
  • seeny

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    Posted March 19th, 2007 17:00

    if you can do a clean install i would say do it, make sure you have everything backed up and have all the software you need on disk
  • Mary G

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    Posted March 19th, 2007 18:00

    Paul Thurrott's site is for installing XP, not Vista. Vista is an imaged based install and the upgrade must be installed from within Windows XP. Unless you are a computer expert, follow the directions Dell sent. There are complicated steps to take for a clean install. If you don't follow them, the upgrade will not work and you will be left without an operating system. Be sure to uninstall any software the advisor says will be a problem first.
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    Posted March 19th, 2007 18:00

    Mmmh.. I do believe Flamko is correct.  I used Thurotts method and worked fine for me, but as I now think about it....I formatted and installed once and the second time I started the DVD from within Vista, but formatted again and reinstalled instead of an upgrade. So in effect I did what Flameko just said but did it twice.. lol..
     
    In anycase.. at no time did I use the WIN XP CD. So installed Vista on a clean disk and it instaled as if it was the full version.  
  • Rebel9

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    Posted March 19th, 2007 18:00

    Read it again Mary. The procedure IS for installing VISTA and it is NOT complicated.
     
     
    Yes, an UPGRADE must be installed from within XP, but we're talking about a clean install.
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    Posted March 19th, 2007 18:00

    You dont need to follow those instructions!!!
     
    Im sorry but Im telling you exactly the way the Dell Upgrade disk is designed.  You dont need to follow those directions for a clean install.  The disk will clean install on any Dell machine with a formatted and partitioned harddrive.... Only one installation is required.


    Message Edited by flamenko on 03-19-2007 02:36 PM

    Message Edited by flamenko on 03-19-2007 02:37 PM
  • flamenko

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    Posted March 19th, 2007 18:00

    I will concede...yes the easiest way, and probably smartest way, is through the Upgrade Assistant.
     
    That website (PAUL T) describes how to do a clean install through installing on the upgrade, not validating then installing from within and validating.
     
    I am saying that, with Dell Upgrade Vista Disk you dont need to follow this.
     
    If you are a bit literate with PC's (and you only need to be a bit in this case), you can clean install through a simple format then installation.  The hardest thing you need to figure out is how to get the machine to boot from disk (press F12 for one time boot).  When the upgrade/clean install screen comes up, it will tell you that you can only do a clean install. Once done, validate.
     
    Quite frankly, the Dell Upgrade disk is a full version disk... Theres no need to be an expert.
     
    Just insert, boot from disk and follow along.
     
    Either way...good luck!!
     
     
    PS...Wait...Mary...just click on the link of which you wrote.  His site is not an XP Site; its very clearly designed for Vista if you browse through.


    Message Edited by flamenko on 03-19-2007 02:29 PM
  • flamenko

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    Posted March 19th, 2007 18:00

    I have installed using my upgrade disks....You dont need to double upgrade.
     
    As long as your disk has been partitioned/formatted, a clean install is automatic; it does not look for a previous version nor do you have a choice.
     
    I did this with mine.  It states that a clean install is for 64mb installetion but the final result is a 32bit OS like you want.
     
    I upgraded my drives after the clean install by just going into the apps/drivers folders and installing each i needed.
     
    There is no need for a double install like once believed.