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March 24th, 2008 15:00

Install Vista sp1 or not?

I have a Vostro 1700 about 3 months old and it is working perfectly, I have heard a few negative comments about SP1 but also a few positive ones, should I install it now or wait until more is known about the possible potential problem issues?

 

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  • MoneyGuyBK

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 15:00

    I would go for it after checking to make sure all other updates are in place and that you don't have any hardware/software on the blacklist.

     

    Reason for my reply... I have a Logitech webcam and did the upgrade to SP1, I have no issues!!!

     

     

    Peace

     

     

  • NemesisDB

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 15:00

    If you don't have a logitech webcam, I'd say go for it.  If it's being offered via windows update then you have no possibly conflicting drivers.  It's made my laptop run smoother and I think it's faster as well.

     

    If it's not being offered via windows update, you should find out why.  This is the list of possible reasons:  http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343

     

    Most likely it's a driver listed in this section:  http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343#method5

     

    Locate any problem drivers that are on your system.  See if there are updates available (through dell for instance).  If there are then install them and SP1 should show up in windows update.

     

    If you can't find a "good" driver then don't worry too much ...  you can still get SP1.  In fact, some people recommend using this full package instead of windows update:

     

     http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=22&p=2&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=&u=%2fdownloads%2fdetails.aspx%3fFamilyID%3db0c7136d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674%26DisplayLang%3den

     

    The drivers listed in the microsoft article (with the exception of logitech) work fine with SP1 -- they just sometimes do not get reinstalled properly during the SP1 installation process.  If this happens (and it likely won't) you will simply need to reinstall the drivers in question (dell should offer all of them on their website). 

     

    To make things easier, for any drivers listed in the microsoft article, it might be a good idea to download the driver files from dell before you do the SP1 update so that you can install them following hte update if they are required.

     

    I don't mean to scare you with all this information -- chances are very good that it will be painless.  Still, as with any big update, make a full backup if you can.

  • Rebel9

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 15:00

    I've encountered NO problems to date. Two obvious positives which I've noticed are:

    1) increased speed when copying files across a network

    2) Sleep and resume from sleep now works reliably and EVERY time.

  • helmecj01

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 15:00

    Hi

     


     

    From Chris

    My computer
    Dell Dimension 1100
    Microsoft Windows XP Home SP 2
    512 MB of Ram
    Nvidia Geforce FX 5200 256MB
    Intel Celeron CPU 2.53GHz
    Dell E196FP
    HDD WDC WD800BB-75JCO 80GB C:
    HDD Samsung SV2042H 20GB F:
    TSSTcorp CDRWDVD TS-H492C D:
    LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S E:
    Linksys Wireless-G WUSB54GS With SpeedBooster
    Logitech Cordless Desktop EX 90
    Logitech Cordless Click Plus Rechargeable Optical Mouse
    Logitech QuickCam Pro 5000
    Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.12
    Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1

    My Security Software
    Avanquest SystemSuite 8 Professional
    Windows Defender

    Message Edited by helmecj01 on 03-24-2008 11:36 AM
  • NemesisDB

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 16:00

    Money,

     

    Nice catch.  It looks like it's only a concern for logitech cams that use the Lvuvc.sys driver.  I haven't installed my qcpro4000 on vista, so I can't say for certain, but on XP mine doesn't use that driver.  Which cam do you have and is yours using that driver?

     

    The KB article doesn't say it will always fail either -- but unlike the other listed drivers, this one can cause a BSOD during the middle of the installation (which I imagine to be bad).

     

  • MoneyGuyBK

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 20:00


    @NemesisDB wrote:

    Money,

     

    Which cam do you have and is yours using that driver?


    It's a Logitech QuickCam Fusion USB Web Camera, Dell item number A0516921
    I am not sure of the driver... as I am not in front of the Beast now...
    However, if you like, since you are a nice guy, I could check when I am there and report!
    Peace
  • eskymi

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 20:00

    I have not seen many problems reported at all  And I have it on 5 machines and all work better, unless I am just imaging that because I want VISTA to succeed.  who knows? 

     

    I have seen good things so far from SP1.  Sleep seems to function better.  I have noticed that my shutdowns are faster.  Used to take 50 seconds from the time I'd click shutdown to the computer turning off.  Now it happens around 35 seconds.

     

    My copying over my network is 25% or so faster. 

     

    I like what I see so far.

     

    Now mwfanelli3, you state that SP1 might fix your shutdown problems, but you are waiting to install it?  I would do it now and see if it truly helps.

    Message Edited by eskymi on 03-24-2008 05:55 PM
  • mwfanelli3

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 20:00

    Well, SP1 showed up in Automatic Update today. I intend to wait. There have been too many

    problems reported. Couple that with the usual less-than-ideal Microsoft updates, I'm much too

    suspicious to be a first adopter.

     

    On a side note, when my laptop refused to shut down again (more than 50% of the time now) , something new happened: On the reboot, I got a screen telling me 

    that the "unintended shutdown" problem could be fixed by installing SP1. Maybe it was

    a Vista, rather than Dell, problem all along.

     

  • dgkpcon

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 21:00

    The logitech cam is not the only problem with SP1.I have a pinnacle HDTV PRO usb tv tuner and it has a problem with SP1 also.I tried downloading via windows update and it failed 4 times.
  • mwfanelli3

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    Posted March 24th, 2008 23:00

    eskymi- I'm glad the SP! is working for you. I have heard of problems on other sites. Perhaps it is user error, perhaps its not. There have been some whacky XP service packs that took a while to settle down. True, I'm being overly cautious and a bit paranoid but this laptop is a machine I use every day. I'd rather not have a major meltown and/or a partial-then-die install. All my other computers are XP Pro.

     

    As for the shutdown problem, I have gotten used to handling that with a brain death (pull out AC and yank

    the battery) so its not critical at this point. Give me time and I'll come around!