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March 27th, 2012 08:00

Precision T7400, Which verison of Windows 7?

 

Hello,

I writing about a Precision T7400 for a customer of mine.  It has two Intel Quad Core Xeon X5482 Processors at 3.20 GHz, and I think it has 8 GB of RAM, but maybe only 4 GB.  The Intel Products web site says that this CPU has a 64-bit Instruction Set, and under Advanced Technologies, it says Intel® 64, so I figure that makes it a 64-bit Processor.

I'm writing to learn which version of Windows 7 to use; 64-bit or 32-bit.  Just checking.

It has an nVidia Quatro FX3700 512MB Video Card, and has an SAS-6 160GB SATA Hard Drive, but this computer has never performed well.  The computer has Windows XP Pro (32-bit) with SP3 on it now (we opted to downgrade from Vista Business), but for all of this computing power, it's horribly slow for a computer of this caliber.  His Secretary has a Precision T5400 that was bought at the same time, with a single Xeon 2.0 GHz Quad Core CPU, that runs circles around his.

I recommended this Precision T7400 to him because my Ex bought one on my recommendation about 1 month earlier, with only a single Xeon Quad Core 3.20 GHZ CPU and the SAS-6 Hard Drive, and it really screamed when it was new (for about the first 6 months), so I thought that with two Xeon CPUs and the 10,000 RPM Hard Drive, it would really perform, but like I said, it's horribly slow (and so is my Ex's, by the way).  His computer takes 12 minutes to boot and fully load everything from Power Off.  From Power Off, it takes the SAS-6 boot-time configuration utility 3 whole minutes by itself to load before Windows ever starts to boot.  12 minutes is a long time for a computer of this caliber. 

I worked on it a month ago and got it down to 6 minutes at Power On from 20, but a few days ago I tried to make it faster again, and after I got the latest BIOS, some new Drivers, some Windows Updates (including IE8) that he had ignored, and ran some Optimization programs and Registry Cleaners, it's up to 12 minutes now.  Granted, there are a lot of programs installed, as it's a business computer, but this computer should be able to handle Anything!!!  So I'm thinking about taking out the SAS-6 Hard Drive and putting in a regular SATA 7200 RPM Hard Drive to see if that will help the performance, and while I'm at it, I want to upgrade to Windows 7.  I'm quite sure that a fresh installation of Windows will help, and Windows 7 is pretty efficient.  And I'm fairly sure that replacing that SAS-6 Hard Drive will help.  Any thoughts on this?  I'd appreciate your input.

So back to the original question...  32-bit or 64-bit Windows 7?  He has many new programs, like Office 2010, and even though they're all 32-bit, I think he'll be OK with his Software Library if Windows 7 64-bit is the way to go, but we'll have to check with some of his business partners to see if the programs they supply are Windows 7 64-bit compatible.  And we'll have to check with QuickBooks.  Maybe Windows XP Mode will help with those programs.  I'm thinking about Windows 7 Ultimate.  This computer was purchased in May of 2008, so I don't think there'll be any issues with Windows 7 compatibility, and I have Driver Genius Pro, in case Dell doesn't have Windows 7 Drivers.  However, if we decide to stick with Windows 7 32-bit, for compatibility with some of his business-partner-supplied programs, do you think there'll be much of a performance loss as compared to 64-bit?  And if we go with Windows 7 64-bit, does Windows XP Mode work with that, and does it create any performance losses? 

Just trying to cover all the bases, and finally get some performance from this machine.  I'm hoping you'll address all of the questions.

Thanks in advance,

Craig

 

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March 28th, 2012 19:00

EPP is distributed by Symantec as a business application, so it will not be considered (or even available) among consumer applications.

SAS is no different from SATA from a user's point of view - or really from Windows pov for that matter.  The difference is only internally (to the drive), from the controller's pov (SAS controller is required), and the physical interface (different but backward-compatible with SATA) ... so your drive type does not determine which software should be run.  SSD's are a different story ... because storage cells on an SSD have a limited number of uses, things such as indexing and disk defrag's are often not recommended to run on an SSD - that AV probably did some type of operation not recommended for SSD's.

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March 29th, 2012 10:00

Hi CBCC01,

In order not to send this discussion off-topic, if you are interested in opinions from some of the knowledgeable volunteers who stay updated on security software reviews and testing, I suggest that you post your anti-virus, anti-spyware, and registry maintenance questions on the Virus & Spyware Forum.

Best of luck in getting things running smoothly.



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March 29th, 2012 22:00

This started as a 32 vs 64 bit question and not an AV issue, hence it is on this thread.  The reason Symantec EPP is generally not reviewed is that it is a business not a personal product.  Norton, which is also from Symantec and is for home use is reviewed.  

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November 17th, 2014 04:00

The dell t7400 is known to be slow writing to the hdd with windows 7.  There are numerous complaints from ppl that have upgraded to win7 from vista.  Mine is also very slow. 

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November 22nd, 2014 18:00

What bugs me is how it slows down so bad over time.  The one I have was ordered with WinXP, to avoid Vista.  It got crazy slow over time!!!  It was pretty decent with a fresh installation of Win7.  Now, it is very sluggish.  It takes six to seven minutes to complete everything loading before I can use it, and it's quite sluggish after that.

I wonder if the Precision T5400 would do any better with the Xeon X5482 3.2GHz CPU from my T7400.  I don't even know if that Xeon will work in the T5400.  Mine has a Xeon E5405 2.0GHz in it right now, and it's slower than the T7400, but it only has 2GB of RAM, too.  I know that it will take the faster E5400 Series at 3.0GHz, and that would let me use the same Heat Sink.  But the X5400 Series have much higher Wattage ratings, and need a different Heat Sink.

Guess I need to post a question about the T5400.  I looked at what has been posted in the community here, and the answer I saw from Dell was that not all Xeon E5400's have been tested, so the Xeon X5482 may not have been, either.

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March 23rd, 2016 14:00

Thanks

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May 23rd, 2016 14:00

My T7400 has been running windows 10 since beta. No driver issues, no speed issues. She is a beast.

Summary
        Operating System
            Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
        CPU
            Intel Xeon E5472 @ 3.00GHz
            Harpertown 45nm Technology
            Intel Xeon E5472 @ 3.00GHz
            Harpertown 45nm Technology
        RAM
            20.0GB FB-DDR2
        Motherboard
            Dell Inc. 0RW199 (CPU)
        Graphics
            Standard Monitor (2715x1527@60Hz)
            2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti (EVGA)
        Storage
            931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-00BN5A0 (SATA) 
            931GB Seagate ST31000520AS (SATA)
            3725GB Western Digital WD My Book 1230 USB Device (USB (SATA))
            3GB Dataram, Inc. RAMDiskVE (RAM Disk)
        Optical Drives
            TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-H553A
        Audio
            NVIDIA High Definition Audio

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