Thank You!

no

you are welcome. i personally am not a fan of amd. i have heard complaints of excessive noise and heat. guess i am also brainwashed by "intel inside" i had 1 amd computer and it was nothing but trouble tho it was a k-6 350. intel is also compatible with more hardware than amd. just my opinion. wonder why the biggest computer maker doesn't use amd.
steve

My guess would be that Dell has a contract with Intel to use there processors. Would make sense wouldn't it?


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i have heard that dell doesn't use amd mainly because amd didn't make motherboards too as intel does. as for contracts seems like good guess too. also amd has had much trouble with compatibility with components. hey maybe "mike" will join in and tell us why he won't use amd. how about it mike?
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steve

Dell does'nt use AMD procs mainly because of stability problems. Dell contracts with and supplies major businesses with large amounts of PC's, workstations, and etc. 90% of major businesses with 50 or more workstations use Intel procs exclusively for thier reliability and stability. That is the major concern of any IT Administrator. AMD still has not shown stability in comparison, and that is why Intel completely dominates the workstation market. Dell chose to go Intel exclusively because it's sound business sense......more stability = less tech support and returns.

Interesting comments, but a few corrections should be made.

1. AMD DOES make motherboards/chipsets.

That said, they haven't been doing it as long as Intel and thus they are still working out the kinks. Of course with every new chipset/mobo those kinks have to be worked out. Intel is not immune to that either. However, Intel is a bigger company and can work problems out faster and before the products hit the market. AMD being a smaller company (though not THAT small) has been fighting with Intel for years now and has to release products in the same time frame or loose market. So products are put to market without the same level of error checking that Intel may do.

2. AMD chips run may or may not run at a higher temperature than Intel.

This is also in responce to reliability. AMD is chosen by custom builders often because the CPUs can be overclocked easier than Intel chips. Overclocking WILL make the CPU run hotter... period. From DELLs point of view, this isn't good because it can be easy to screw up your system this way. If you don't know what your doing you can make your system HIGHLY unstable if it boots at all. Those things are going to depend highly on the motherboard. This increases the number of support calls for DELL as well.

That said, I'd imaging Dell would request that AMD produce a motherboard that would not allow overclocking. It may be as simple as a custom BIOS/CMOS. Dell does that already with thier Intel based systems.

I work with DELL systems at work every day and I like them, but I run an AMD system at home. My AMD system is no less stable or reliable than my DELL system at work. DELL caters to all users, power users and beginners. If DELL does begin to sell AMD machines, as the rumors are saying might happen, there will be a market there. I'm a PC tech and DELL is a respected PC manufacturer. Adding AMD to DELLs product line would be a great addition. So long as they don't just put them in those awful T series machines.

Marc

I've read many comments on AMD's reliability on this thread. Perhaps, it is only your experience because I have used AMD products for many years, including the K6's, without any issues on reliability. This is with running numerous graphic-intense programs and games that require raw CPU power.

AMD processors run better then Intel's processors in my opinion. Heck, one only has to look at the past year's recall of many Intel chips vs. no recalls on AMD products to understand what the true meaning of reliability really is.

it is about time someone who actually knew what was going on got on u4ic and tnvwboy.

I work in the tech department for chatham, and we use only AMD due to the insistance of the techs, and has saved us a large amount of money and head aches.

AMD is no less stable, and if you check your bencmarks, it is faster for your buck as well.

Dell has had an exclusive contract with intel to keep their processor prices down if dell sells only intel.

Dell has been rethinking this lately, as can be seen if you go to the news on cnet.com and read where they have been polling buyers to see if they want dell to switch to amd.

AMD has been continuing to sell more chips every quarter, Intel has not. Simply put, amd is becoming the more popular and accepted choice, intel is not.

if you have any good questions that are not just speculation or opinion, you can get me at nirvana4all@hotmail.com

The reason for unstability is quite simple. Microsoft (The Leader in OS's Owns the Computer OS market for PC consumers.) Microsoft doesn't directly support 3rd party chipset makers such as VIA and Sis. So in an environment such as Windows where the Intel Pentium is directly supported by windows, it doesn't surprise me that any AMD processor could be or maybe unstable. As for me, I own 3 Athlon sytems 1.4Ghz, 1.0Ghz,& 900Mhz. I am happy with all of them, and before the 900 I owned an Intel Pentium 200Mhz MMX system. I have noticed that AMD systems are considerably cheaper and suggest that anyone to keep a more open mind when choosing either processors. Remember that this world is everchanging and that no processor is better than the other. Price became a huge concern for me, and therefore i choose the AMD system, so just consider your options very carefully.