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August 13th, 2005 08:00

Overclocking PCI-e Nvidia 6800

Hi, I have heard people say that they have unlocked "pipes" on there Geforce 6800 to make it run faster, or "overclocked," is this true?  If so, does it put the video card under stress to run it overclocked?  Is this dangerous to do, or can it be done easily?  does overclocking, or raising the speed the card runs at really make a difference?  Any information on this would be much appreciated.  Thanks.

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  • HTT Good HT Bad

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    Posted August 13th, 2005 12:00

    overclocking can put more stress on the chip, sometimes overclocking can offer better performence, Enabling th other pipes is not exactly dangerous but usually those cards have the extra pipes disabled for a reason
  • rick000

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    Posted August 13th, 2005 12:00

    Overclocking Any Part of Your Dell Computer Is In No Way Recommended
    Overclocking of the processor, video card or any other part of your Dell computer is in no way recommended, supported or warranted by Dell. Any damage that occurrs as a result of altering the factory set clock speeds is completely and wholly the responsibility of the end user, and any repairs required or expenses incurred as a result of overclocking are entirely the responsibility of the end user. OVERCLOCK AT YOUR OWN RISK
    http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/kb/en/document?dn=1012232&c=us&l=en&cs=19&s=dhs

     

     

    Message Edited by rick000 on 08-13-2005 08:58 AM

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    Posted August 13th, 2005 12:00

    video cards isnt that bad, OCing a video car dcant kill it because it will lock up if you push it to high
  • SR45

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    Posted August 13th, 2005 13:00

    OCing will shorten the life of the card, for just a few frames per second more.  Not worth it in my book
  • wtcnbrwndo4u

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    Posted August 13th, 2005 16:00

    You can't unlock pipes on the PCIe version of the 6800.

    The AGP version uses the RV45 core, which is used in the 6800GT and 6800Ultra. These cores have 16 pipes. Instead of making a new core, they masked 4 pipes to make it a 6800. Users discovered the masking using RivaTuner and unlocked them.

    nVidia then reacted by making the PCIe version have a new core (RV43), which only had 12 pipes. No unlocking here.
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    Posted August 13th, 2005 17:00

    In most cases, the other four pixel pipelines and one vertex shader of the 6800, AGP version can be unlocked giving a ~10% performance boost. In some cases the pipes cannot be unlocked while in other cases unlocking causes instability and so have to be locked again. The PCI-e version of the 6800 cannot be unlocked because structurally it is built with only 12 pipelines. Unlocking the pipelines doesn't make the card run faster overclocking does. Overclocking or increasing the speed of your GPU and memory will increase performance else why do it. Is it easy to do? Yes. Running the card faster than the manufacturer intended means it will be running hotter and put under more stress depending how much you overclock.
     
    The 6800 is fine as is. I unlocked my pipes more out of curiosity than anything else. I leave them unlocked because of the "free" 10% boost. I say free because my temps didn't move 1 degree aftrewards. I haven't overclocked but probably will sometime in the future when I put a few more miles on it. :smileywink: Hope this answers your questions.
     
     
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    Dimension 8200 (July 2002)
    3.06Ghz P4 w/HT 533fsb---------------------------------------768mb pc800 rdram
    128mb BFG GeForce 6800oc (16 pipes enabled)--------Dell 250W PSU
    Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS -------------------------------------Logitech Z-5300E 5.1 THX
    P992 19" Flat Screen Monitor----------------------------------Floppy Drive
    40X CD-RW--------------------------------------------------------80GB Ultra ATA HD
    Intel 10/100M PCI Network Card
  • wtcnbrwndo4u

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    Posted August 13th, 2005 22:00

    The GTO is a different card. This is an OEM 6800GT, not a plain 6800.
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    Posted August 13th, 2005 22:00

    Howdy
    I disagree about being unable to unlock the pipeline's on the pci-e version. I have the 6800gto in my 8400, & I used Rivatuner on it just after I got it in Jan. Riva tuner said I had 12 pipeline & 4 vertises before I tried the unmasking bit. After words, Rivatuner said I had16 pipelines & 6 vertizes. I deleted Rivatuner just after that because of concerns over my warrenty, & because it didn't seem to make a difference in playing Farcry.
    I just tried Rivatuner again, before making this post, with the same results being reported.
    Unlocking the pipelines also didn't make a difference in the speeds that - detect optimal speeds- reported. Both before & after unlocking, I got a report of 406 clock & 1.03 GHZ memory.
    Stock speeds are 350/900
    Any way thats how it worked for me, others can be different.
    Because I see no difference on my 19 crt, I'm going to set my card back to default now.
    Bob
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    Posted August 14th, 2005 01:00

    Howdy
    May I ask what you mean ?
    When I bought this system, my video card choices were- X300 - 6800 (DDR2) - 6800GTO (DDR3)
    all Dell OEM cards.  My understanding is that to get a real 6800GT, you had to buy one aftermarket.
    My chipset is N40, by the way
    Bob
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    Posted August 14th, 2005 01:00

    The 6800 that Dell offers is a DDR card. True, you had to buy an aftermarket card in order to get a true 6800GT performance. But either way, the 6800GTO was different from the 6800. Otherwise, there would be no price difference between the 6800 and the 6800GTO.