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January 28th, 2008 00:00

4GB Ram

I have 64bit vista installed on mt 1710 but I need to change bios settings so it will see 4 instead of 3.25. What and where do I change in order to accomplish it?
  • dgkpcon

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    Posted January 28th, 2008 01:00

    Even with a 64 bit os you will not be able to see or use 4gb.This is posted all over the forum it is a chipset and hardware limitation.
  • medion

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    Posted January 28th, 2008 02:00

    Your video is eating up quite a bit, nothing you can do about this at this time.
    All your ram is getting used in one way or another.
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    Posted January 28th, 2008 08:00

    videocard is 7950gtx 512mb
  • ButtonMasher

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    Posted January 28th, 2008 08:00

    If your bios supports it then it should pick up the 4GB ram already. Vista 64bit supports up to 128GB Ram so the problem isn't with the OS.

    You could try installing Service Pack 1 as on Vista 32-bit the OS showed the full 4GB for most people - again it depends if the bios supports it.

    Another thing to do is hit windows key and type dxdiag and then under display see how much ram has been assigned to your graphics card. The total shown will be your dedicated video ram plus what vista has assigned it from your system ram.
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    Posted January 28th, 2008 09:00

    Is that what it says in DXDIAG under display?
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    Posted January 28th, 2008 10:00

    ooh, sorry about that formatting, I cut and pasted from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605 and it didnt preserve the format.
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    Posted January 28th, 2008 10:00

    According to

    <ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed from this post by Dell>

    the max memory that an M1710 can support is 4GB, and in order to avoid the memory hole you are getting due to your video card, your machine needs to: For Windows Vista to use all 4 GB of memory on a computer that has 4 GB of memory installed, the computer must meet the following requirements: • The chipset must support at least 8 GB of address space. Chipsets that have this capability include the following: • Intel 975X • Intel P965 • Intel 955X on Socket 775 • Chipsets that support AMD processors that use socket F, socket 940, socket 939, or socket AM2. These chipsets include any AMD socket and CPU combination in which the memory controller resides in the CPU. • The CPU must support the x64 instruction set. The AMD64 CPU and the Intel EM64T CPU support this instruction set. • The BIOS must support the memory remapping feature. The memory remapping feature allows for the segment of system memory that was previously overwritten by the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) configuration space to be remapped above the 4 GB address line. This feature must be enabled in the BIOS configuration utility on the computer. View your computer product documentation for instructions that explain how to enable this feature. Many consumer-oriented computers may not support the memory remapping feature. No standard terminology is used in documentation or in BIOS configuration utilities for this feature. Therefore, you may have to read the descriptions of the various BIOS configuration settings that are available to determine whether any of the settings enable the memory remapping feature. • An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used. (that above is from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605. So in short, you're out of luck).

  • hikine

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    Posted January 28th, 2008 11:00

    The BIOS should recognize the RAM automatically.  There is no setting to change.  On Vista x32 RC1 4gb RAM is recognized but unfortunately it's still not utilizing all the memory, same 3.6gb max.  Hopefully the final SP1 would recognize all 4gb RAM.
  • palakmar

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    Posted January 28th, 2008 11:00

    but the question still is what do I change in bios to get that effect
  • stupidcomputern

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    Posted January 28th, 2008 13:00

    You dont change the BIOS.  Your motherboard doesnt support >4GB RAM, so even if your OS can support it, the hardware wont.  From that KB article at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605  (hopefully, I will be able to get the format right this time)
     
    - The chipset must support at least 8GB.  According to

    , the M1710 does not.
     
    - The CPU must support the x64 instruction set. The AMD64 CPU and the Intel EM64T CPU support this instruction set.   Yours does, obviously.
     
     
    - The BIOS must support the memory remapping feature. The memory remapping feature allows for the segment of system memory that was previously overwritten by the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) configuration space to be remapped above the 4 GB address line. This feature must be enabled in the BIOS configuration utility on the computer. View your computer product documentation for instructions that explain how to enable this feature. Many consumer-oriented computers may not support the memory remapping feature. No standard terminology is used in documentation or in BIOS configuration utilities for this feature. Therefore, you may have to read the descriptions of the various BIOS configuration settings that are available to determine whether any of the settings enable the memory remapping feature.

    While this may apply to you, since your mobo only supports 4GB, you wont get the full 4GB support.

     
     
    An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used.  (you're good there too)
     
    So, if the KB article above is correct, you'll never be able to see the full 4GB.