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May 23rd, 2009 19:00

Installing new hard drive

Dell 8200, exixting faulty hard drive..Western Digital WD400, IDE, 40GB.

Can I replace with a larger drive using a SATA  cable? If so, what is needed?

Or should I try to find a larger IDE drive?

I found a WD400BB, wonder what BB means?

Most drives I'm finding are OEM... no instructions or software. Since I've never installed a HD, I would need instructions.

Help will be appreciated.

 

  • shesagordie

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    Posted May 23rd, 2009 21:00

    olefin56

    The 8200 does not support SATA, only IDE drives, if you wish to install a SATA HD, then a SATA PCI controller card would be needed. 

    With 8200 there's no advantage to using a SATA hard drive, instead of an IDE.

    Try to find an 7200rpm, IDE drive, with at least a 8mb cache.

    BB means the Western Digital HD, has a 2mb cache.

    Install at least a 120gb IDE HD, to use a larger than 120gb hard drive as the primary C:/, require WinXP-SP1 [or higher], not XP with the SP-1 upgrade.

    Dell has no instructions for replace the 8200 primary IDE hard drive, but you can use the instructions for the Dimension 8250 for the physical installation, as they have the same chassis.

    See HERE

    A hint: Remember to set the HD's jumpers to 'Cable Select'.

    After install the replacement, you need the reinstall XP, drivers and the applications.

    Bev.

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    Posted May 24th, 2009 06:00

     Hi Bev,

    Just got through answering your other post about my question on service tags.

    I had planned to use this drive.  But it's not as large as the one you suggested. It's 7200 but doesn't have as much cache. So sounds like I need to look further.

    Thanks for the link to the instructions and all your helpful suggestions. I didn't know I would be changing the jumpers to replace the existing drive.

    And THANKS again for still being on the forum!

    Dayton

     

  • shesagordie

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    Posted May 24th, 2009 12:00

    Dayton.

    Glad to have helped.

    Check out the IDE hard drives HERE

    It looks like the WDC 80gb IDE hard drive, in your link, is an OEM drive, not the retail boxed version.

    Bev.

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    Posted May 24th, 2009 15:00

     

    You are welcome, Dayton.    :emotion-2:

    Bev.

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    Posted May 24th, 2009 15:00

    Sure is a better price.

    Thanks again Bev.

    Dayton

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    Posted May 25th, 2009 06:00

    Bev, I'm asking for  your opinion.

    1. I tried to reinstall Windows.
    After searching for previous versions of Windows, it showed the size of the drive but said it wasn't available.

    2. Anytime I hit F1, I can hear the drive click.

    From the above would you think, the drive is toasted completely?  And means no recovery of anything on the drive?


    Thanks

    Dayton

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    Posted May 26th, 2009 08:00

    Hi, Dayton.

    Guess the forum was down yesterday.     :emotion-4:

    It sounds like the 'Click of Death' it would seem that the hard drive is toast, especially if it's the original drive.

    To make certain, you could go to hard drive's manufacturer's support site, download their diagnostics and burn it to a floppy, then see if you run the diagnostics to check it.

    To recover the files and folders, you could try this:

    Install the the IDE hard drive and after reloading XP, etc, and when the PC is working to your satisfaction, install the 'old' hard drive as the secondary [Slave] and see if you can transfer the files and folders to the new HD.

    You could also, buy an IDE, powered external enclosure, install the 'old' HD in it, attach it to a USB port of a working computer and see if you can transfer the data.

    Do you have a policy about backing up the files and folders to other media, as a guard against hard drive failure?

    Bev.

     

      

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    Posted May 26th, 2009 09:00

    You can replace the Drive with a SATA Drive using an IDE BRIDGE.

     

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    Posted May 26th, 2009 09:00

    Clunk Clunk Clunk Im dead.

    A lot of time this is a Controller issue aka you swap a controller from an exact same drive model and you can read the data again.

    http://www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com/

    is one company that is likely to be able to recover the data.

    Depends on how much $$$$$ the data is worth.

     

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    Posted May 26th, 2009 16:00

    Bev,

    I had alredy run the WD diagnostics, it showed SMART error... the code said replace the drive. So I felt it was lost.

    Last year I purchases a 750 GB external drive for backups. But for the last month had got lazy and missed a few files that I hat to lose. Really no excuese for not being backed up.

    The important thing, I have 35 GB of pictures backed up. I have those on 3 hard drives.

    Thanks, Dayton